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[custom36]

Absolute Poker $0.50/1 Limit HE 6-max tableHero is button with A Q :diamond:Preflop: UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP calls, Hero raises, SB folds, BB reraises, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP calls, Hero calls.I just call the reraise because a cap seems like a bad idea (I could just be weak here).Flop: ($7.50) 9 8 6 :spade:BB bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP calls, Hero callsI call here because I think he just has high cards and I have a backdoor flush draw with a monster pot.Turn: ($10.00) 2 :spade:BB bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP calls, Hero callsAgain, I'm getting odds to chase the flush with 2 over cards. I have no idea what the cold callers have got. I'm not going to fold - would raising have been a good idea?River: ($15.00) 5 :spade:BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP checks, Hero bets, BB calls, 2 folds, MP calls.I hit my miracle card. I bet here, and I'm sure BB calls to see it. I'm not quite sure why MP called. Had it been a smaller pot, I would have folded somehwere along the line, but this was huge and I saw no reason to fold with these kind of pot odds. Was I right to stay in?Showdown: ($18.00)

[wrto4556]

If it was suited, I would have capped because we have the button.This play looks standard.

[Rocketwadster]

The only thing I was uncertain of was your raise pre-flop from the button with all those callers ahead of you. Not that I think it was wrong to do, but the fact that all those limpers ended up calling two bets after the BB re-raised would have me worried no matter what the flop was.Taking one off, as it is sometimes referred to, on the flop is a standard play, to see what develops with your high potential hand. Especially considering you have position. Had someone raised the BB after the flop, then it becomes a lot more difficult to take that turn card. As it happens, you caught a spade on the turn (which is what you wanted), so all is well in the universe. I wouldn't be too worried about the straight possibility after the flop (doubtful the BB re-raised with 7-10 or something similar, so you have two overcards and a backdoor flush possible. Well played before the river in my opinion. Your only option was to bet on the river, so it was all in all a well-played hand IMO. :wink:

[Briguy]

Should he have raised the turn? There were 14 BBs in there when the betting got to him, with 8 clean outs to the nuts, and 6 outs to either a non-nut A-high flugh, TPTK or TP2K. Are those enough outs to raise the turn for pot-building purposes, even with the possibility of a made flush 3-betting?

[dbdbarry]

The only thing I don't like here is your play on the flop, the rest is good. You don't want to bet the turn, you have pot odds to call the turn, not raise the turn. Now, as for the flop, you say you called because you thought he only had high cards, well that's all that you have, and if you're counting on the backdoor flush, forget it came up, you should be folding. With four other people in and all calling you're probably beat. Even if he had two high cards (I would put him on a high pair, I don't know why you'd bet out at four other players with just high cards), but let's say he has two high cards. The triple bet before the flop suggests he probably has AK, so if the ace comes it's no help to you. A queen maybe wins it for you. So I fold here. You're going to make the flush about 1/36, and MAYBE the queen wins is for you. Or maybe you hit your ace and lose a couple more bets, or maybe you make your Q and still lose.I fold the flop, the rest I would do the same as you did.

[dms26]

Rocketwadster said:

The only thing I was uncertain of was your raise pre-flop from the button with all those callers ahead of you. Not that I think it was wrong to do, but the fact that all those limpers ended up calling two bets after the BB re-raised would have me worried no matter what the flop was.

bad players are bad players because they call 2 and 3 cold with bad hands. They could have 2-5suited ( Not that's that a bad hand DN).

[dms26]

dbdbarry said:

The only thing I don't like here is your play on the flop, the rest is good. You don't want to bet the turn, you have pot odds to call the turn, not raise the turn. Now, as for the flop, you say you called because you thought he only had high cards, well that's all that you have, and if you're counting on the backdoor flush, forget it came up, you should be folding. With four other people in and all calling you're probably beat. Even if he had two high cards (I would put him on a high pair, I don't know why you'd bet out at four other players with just high cards), but let's say he has two high cards. The triple bet before the flop suggests he probably has AK, so if the ace comes it's no help to you. A queen maybe wins it for you. So I fold here. You're going to make the flush about 1/36, and MAYBE the queen wins is for you. Or maybe you hit your ace and lose a couple more bets, or maybe you make your Q and still lose.I fold the flop, the rest I would do the same as you did.

The 3 bet could have also been an isolation attempt with TT or JJ, a fold on the flop seems weak, its only half a bet to call in a pretty big pot.

[cdddc75]

dbdbarry said:

I fold the flop, the rest I would do the same as you did.

Folding that flop with 19:1 pot odds to call is beyond horrible.This hand was played fine.

[rog]

I wouldn't change much. Your flop call was maybe a bit loose, but close enough.

[rog]

rog said:

I wouldn't change much.  Your flop call was maybe a bit loose, but close enough.

I take that back. Not loose at all. 19:1 to chase a backdoor flush is a nice edge.

[dms26]

rog said:

I wouldn't change much.  Your flop call was maybe a bit loose, but close enough.

No way, not with 2 overs and a backdoor nut flush draw in a big pot. A fold there is just asking a good player to run all over you.

[wrto4556]

wrto4556 said:

This play looks standard.

Did I already say that?Anyway, raising anywhere besides preflop and on the river in this hand is horrible. The flop you are going to get 3-bet or stop n goed too many times to even try a free card play. I have no clue why anyone would want to semibluff a turn raise into a field of people. :? This play is as standard as it gets.

[KDawgCometh]

nh sir

[obs]

You are 4.1:1 to hit your flush so a raise on the turn is debatable. The EV between raising and calling the turn is close. Else it is fine. Don't you dare fold that flop.

[custom36]

Alright, thanks guys. There were two reasons I asked about this hand. The first was that I thought I may have played it weakly by not raising more. The second was that I felt pretty fishy after catching my runner-runner flush. Thanks for the advice.