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[Ko8e34]

I'm just a college kid, only 19 years of age and play mainly online. I have a friend who lives with some guys who play, but aren't as into poker as I am. A couple days ago, they tell me they are having a $20 buyin game winner take all, which was not a big buying for me(brag?), but was a large buyin for them. Myself and one of them got heads-up and ended up just chopping since it was late and I wanted to go home.

This is where things get interesting. I am talking to my friend afterwards and he gives me some background about these home games they have. He tells me him and the guy I ended up heads up with always chop. If they aren't the two that end up heads up, my friend will chip dump him to make sure he wins and sometimes rig the deck to ensure he wins, and then chop. He also even told me that the two of them were going to rig the game against me, but when me and him ended up heads up the other guy called it off.

So I'm sitting here thinking, my "friend" almost set up a poker game against me. Wow. Not sure why I didn't punch him in the face when he told me he was going to set me up, but he invited me over again last night. I considered it because the players are obscenely bad. Players will call with bottom pair or even ace high on the river to a big bet. So I figured the action is juicy enough, and I will just keep my eyes open for anything shady.

So only a few hands in, one of the guys is shuffling the deck and I notice he is shuffling the deck slowly and seems to be looking at the cards. He's talking to us at the same time so I figure it's just a habit and don't think anything about it. I have Q10 and call, it gets to the dealer and he miniraises to which I call. Flop is AKJ rainbow. We get it all in and he shows AQ. Jack and on the turn and then as he's flipping the river he starts talking, "and a jack on the river gives me a full house." I was shocked and the other players didn't have much of a reaction. I don't know the exact odds, I'm sure I was a 19-1 favorite or something ridiculous like that. Didn't bother to say anything.

I build back up my chip stack to where I started when something funny happens. 4-handed, My "friend" and the guy who always wins with him (who has half the chips in play at this point) get in a hand together where my friend goes all in on a missed draw on the river and the other guy calls with a full house. Chip dump? Sure seems like it to me. The third player loses a flip with 55 against AK aipf and now I'm a 5-1 dog HU.

I end up losing and I'm not upset about it, but the fact that I feel kinda played. What do you guys think? Never gonna play there again, just don't know if the person is a "friend" worth having.

[Bshealey786]

No dont play in shady games like that...

And hit your friend in the throat

[Flushgarden]

If they feel the need to cheat to win your $20 then they're pretty pathetic people and I would leave them to lead their inane lives without you in it...this includes your "friend".

[Merby]

Sounds shady. Here's what you should do:

1) Tell your "friend" that you are having a home game at your place.
2) ?????
3) Bury the body in the back yard
4) ????
5) Profit

[TrueAce13]

Yeeeaaahhh...eff shady games. I definitely wouldn't play there anymore.

And if you do decide to play again, I would definitely call them out on it in the process

[Tehtoe]

wtf...that Q10 hand is so obv. Punch your friend in the face and don't deal with those losers anymore.

[mhoward29]

I highly doubt these guys are skilled enough to rig a deck.

[Poker Addict]

I can't believe you would have gone back - saw some shadiness and not called them out on it.

Oh yeah,

[x] punch your "friend" in the mouth

[x] take the cash he has on him

[x] go ahead an play with them again but be prepared to do the above again.

Sounds like they have watched too many movies.

[four10 lkc]

I highly doubt these guys are skilled enough to rig a deck.

it isn't hard to rig a deck if you're shuffling with the cards face up as explained. it takes 30 seconds, which isnt that long while engaged in conversation... I can't believe you didn't say anything when you were playing.

[yourboygsarida]

this is an appropriate time for one of two plays:
a) the upper decker: go over for the next game, proceed to use their restroom and then drop a duece in the upper part of the toilet. then say something came up, leave and lolllll about the bomb and the fact they wont be able to figure out where the smell is coming from.
go shit in your "friend's" closet. then punch him in the face.

[mhoward29]

it isn't hard to rig a deck if you're shuffling with the cards face up as explained. it takes 30 seconds, which isnt that long while engaged in conversation... I can't believe you didn't say anything when you were playing.

Actually, I bet you $100 that you couldnt rig a deck with me watching or even Kobe without use noticing. And I would give you a month to practice.

[gatortom64]

Desert Eagle .50 cal > Cheating punks. AINEC!!

[psujohn]

1) Find the regulars in the game
2) Explain to them what's going on
3) Advise that they bury the bodies in the backyard
4) ...
5) Profit

Less messy that way.

[mhoward29]

this is an appropriate time for one of two plays:
a) the upper decker

<------------------------ Has done the upper decker at a party at his old roommate's house who is a douche. (about 6 years ago)

[whatgreatis]

I highly doubt these guys are skilled enough to rig a deck.

I can rig a deck. It's pretty easy and if I can have 30 seconds of your time I can teach you to rig one too. I'm not saying I can deal coolers but I can give you any two cards out of the deck you want.

[whatgreatis]

Actually, I bet you $100 that you couldnt rig a deck with me watching or even Kobe without use noticing. And I would give you a month to practice.

I'll take that bet.

[TrueAce13]

I definitely want in on that action.

It isn't hard to tell while someone is shuffling that something is going on. Shouldn't take 30 seconds to shuffle a deck. Especially when the hand plays out perfectly like flopping a straight and then someone hits a boat and it just happens to be the person dealing. Put 2 and 2 together

Have to agree with mhoward on this one

Though punching people in the face seems like a good fit to this situation

[Ouch-8s]

next time he invites you, just hand him the $20 and tell him to save his effort in cheating.

or

don't play in games you KNOW are fixed. this is retarded.

[terradawg]

1. next time show up early.
2. quietly explain to all the participants that the game is rigged and explain how it goes down
3. let it go down
4. call them out when it happens, but do it just before it goes down so everyone knows it is shady
5. let the group of people who got scammed decide what to do.

[theinvestor]

Actually, I bet you $100 that you couldnt rig a deck with me watching or even Kobe without use noticing. And I would give you a month to practice.

Oohhhhh. I would take that bet.