Dratj 0 Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Factors to consider: stable climate, ie. warm weather year round. close to fresh water and farmland. My boss posed me this question. He wants to find a place now where if the world goes to shit, he can be self sufficient. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Michigan. In 20 years they say that Michigan will have weather like Hawaii. And we have all those lakes. Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Just buy him a tinfoil hat and tell him that will protect him all the world's evils. Link to post Share on other sites
Cappy37 0 Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 I can't believe I'm the first to nominate the Playboy Mansion. hmmm.. Link to post Share on other sites
zimmer4141 0 Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Hawaii. Who the hell would nuke Hawaii? Worst case they secede from the US and nobody really cares anyways. Link to post Share on other sites
Southern Buddhist 1 Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Canada!!! Oil in Alberta, more fresh water than ALL the rest of the world combined (which may someday be more precious than oil), control over the Northwest Passage, which will be the world's greatest shipping lane, and a nation full of Democrats, with highly stable government and a well educated, healthy citizenry. Coming in 20 years, year-round mild weather like the Mid-Atlantic (Virginia, Maryland, the Carolinas) enjoys now. I've looked into it -- the most pessimistic of the global warming experts was asked this, and his response was eastern Canada. Europe may be in a deep freeze if the Gulf Stream shuts down, everything south will be too hot, and Russia, the only other far-north country, isn't stable enough.Plus, last time I was there, Canada had some dirt-effing-cheap real estate. I mean oceanfront cottages for $60,000 cheap. Bare land like $15,000. Buy-it-and-forget-it-for-20-years cheap.Failing that, inside Fort Knox -- with a refrigerator. Link to post Share on other sites
Dratj 0 Posted February 5, 2008 Author Share Posted February 5, 2008 Canada!!! Oil in Alberta, more fresh water than ALL the rest of the world combined (which may someday be more precious than oil), control over the Northwest Passage, which will be the world's greatest shipping lane, and a nation full of Democrats, with highly stable government and a well educated, healthy citizenry. Coming in 20 years, year-round mild weather like the Mid-Atlantic (Virginia, Maryland, the Carolinas) enjoys now. I've looked into it -- the most pessimistic of the global warming experts was asked this, and his response was eastern Canada. Europe may be in a deep freeze if the Gulf Stream shuts down, everything south will be too hot, and Russia, the only other far-north country, isn't stable enough.Plus, last time I was there, Canada had some dirt-effing-cheap real estate. I mean oceanfront cottages for $60,000 cheap. Bare land like $15,000. Buy-it-and-forget-it-for-20-years cheap.Failing that, inside Fort Knox -- with a refrigerator.Are you kidding me? Oceanfront cottages for 60K? How long ago was that? Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyJoJo 20 Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 I can't believe I'm the first to nominate the Playboy Mansion. hmmm..Only two people replied before you. It's not that unbelievable. Link to post Share on other sites
dapokerbum 0 Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 San Diego now ... Canada in 20 years. Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 my basement Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,741 Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 my basementI call top bunk. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 You guys do know that the climate experts who are espousing the global warming mania are predicting a maximum of 4 degree increase in the next 100 years right?Not so sure you want to trust Canada being warm year round with the 4 degree change.As far as the best place to live?Probably San Diego, insanely good temp, great beaches, hot women, football, baseball stadiums....expensive but beautifulI will never live there because of the traffic. Link to post Share on other sites
strategy 4 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Are you kidding me? Oceanfront cottages for 60K? How long ago was that?It's for real. The location is really that secluded.Um, as for the climate shift, I don't know. But I'd kinda like to live in canada someday just because it is a nice country. Link to post Share on other sites
Southern Buddhist 1 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Are you kidding me? Oceanfront cottages for 60K? How long ago was that?Two years ago, in Nova Scotia. They've got a LOT of coast.To Balloon Guy: this was an "absolute worst possible case scenario" guy, and he was looking at a full 100 years with every year hitting the worst possible projections for that year. It was more a thought experiment (as this thread is) than a real plan-for-it scenario. However, FWIW, comparing US government budget and economic forecasting to what actually wound up happening, the truth has been closest to the most negative outlooks (rather than the optimistic or neutral outlooks) about 75% of the time, closest to neutral about 25% of the time, and closest to optimistic almost never (this is true for both parties over the past 75 years). So if the government's science is as good as its fiscal planning, count on whatever the government is considering "the worst."Also, four average degrees is a bigger change than you think. I sure don't want to start another "Let's Be Sensible" Thread, but the effects of relatively small temperature changes can be quite large when they tip a border area from semi-tropical into tropical and allow diseases like West Nile and malaria to spread into new areas, or when they virtually eliminate winter in an area with an average winter temperature that is now around 32 or 33, or when they increase the number of triple-digit heat days in the Midwest that kill crops or lead to drought in the South from, say, 20 days a year to 40. It won't take a doubling of temperature to do that, just an extra ten days in spring and fall that would have been a break in years past. Link to post Share on other sites
Doug 0 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 I think most places will still be fine. But I don't believe the world will be continually heating up in 20 years from now. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Richard Branson's private island, FTW. http://www.neckerisland.com/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necker_Island...Virgin_Islands)Best place in the world to live now, best place in the world to live 20 years from now. Link to post Share on other sites
hank213 1,824 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Moonbase Astro. Link to post Share on other sites
GeneralGeeWhiz 0 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 San Francisco is awesome. So is the whole bay area (except Richmond and Oakland) Link to post Share on other sites
Dratj 0 Posted February 6, 2008 Author Share Posted February 6, 2008 It's for real. The location is really that secluded.Um, as for the climate shift, I don't know. But I'd kinda like to live in canada someday just because it is a nice country.Hmm, I guess it would be possible in the east coast. I have a friend in Nova Scotia who just bought a home for 300k though. Link to post Share on other sites
kers2 0 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Vegas, Vegas[/thread] Link to post Share on other sites
Governator 54 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Hawaii. Who the hell would nuke Hawaii? Worst case they secede from the US and nobody really cares anyways.Japanese, 1941...? Link to post Share on other sites
El Guapo 10 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 San Francisco is awesome. So is the whole bay area (except Richmond and Oakland)I disagree, I live an hour from there and would not want to be any closer. Its a congested traffic nightmare.SF is fun for an over night trip though, or day trip too. Link to post Share on other sites
hank213 1,824 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 I disagree, I live an hour from there and would not want to be any closer. Its a congested traffic nightmare.SF is fun for an over night trip though, or to get a quickie in the mens room at the park.yep. Link to post Share on other sites
Evastian 0 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 There's more to warm weather than California.I would say Australia now - in any of the major cities, you have warm sandy beaches 30 mins in one direction, and farmland and country 30 mins in the other direction. Big city in between. Very warm all year round. Good economy, one of the best standards of living in the world. Not nearly as populated as some megacities (though Sydney is a little too big for my liking).20 years from now? Canada, New Zealand, China. Link to post Share on other sites
jeff_536 3 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 It's for real. The location is really that secluded.Um, as for the climate shift, I don't know. But I'd kinda like to live in canada someday just because it is a nice country.goddammit Link to post Share on other sites
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