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#1 Jujoki3

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 01:35 PM

Villian is playing 16/10/3 over 100 hands. I've been playing semi loose opening a lot of pots when it's folded to me.POKERSTARS GAME #14985498553: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2008/02/01 - 15:59:15 (ET)Table 'Leonteus IV' 6-max Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: Rage13 ($353.05 in chips) Seat 2: Helman Limon ($82.65 in chips) Seat 3: viensjent ($250.20 in chips) Seat 4: AsydRayne ($205.45 in chips) Seat 5: sheep21 ($200 in chips) ramonv15 leaves the tableviensjent: posts small blind $1AsydRayne: posts big blind $2*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to sheep21 [Qc Qs]sheep21: raises $6 to $8Rage13: folds Helman Limon: folds viensjent: folds AsydRayne: calls $6*** FLOP *** [6c 2c Ts]AsydRayne: checks sheep21: bets $12AsydRayne: raises $26 to $38sheep21: calls $26*** TURN *** [6c 2c Ts] [9d]AsydRayne: bets $62sheep21 ?????Thoughts?

#2 Acid_Knight

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 01:48 PM

Convert your hand.I'm pretty sure this is a shove.

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 01:52 PM

Ya, this is a shove.Sucks that he had 66, but he can have a lot of hands you beat here.

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 01:53 PM

anyone for coming over harder on the flop?
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Posted 01 February 2008 - 02:08 PM

View Postpokerinc, on Friday, February 1st, 2008, 9:53 PM, said:

anyone for coming over harder on the flop?
Maybe. I prefer looking at a turn though and deciding from there. If a club comes he may slow down with a set. If no club comes he probably keps firing with a draw.OOP I probably just reraise/call the flop.

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 02:14 PM

I like it so far, I might actually consider calling and seeing a river
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Posted 01 February 2008 - 02:25 PM

I think you have to put him on a pretty narrow range (JJ/AK/AQ/99) to think you're ahead here. Seems like it's all the rage for people to cold-call HU PF with AA. The flop CR and turn lead is kind of scary to me. We're OBV getting it in with this hand, so we should be sure what we're dealing with.
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Posted 01 February 2008 - 03:26 PM

View Postsimo_8ball, on Friday, February 1st, 2008, 1:52 PM, said:

Ya, this is a shove.Sucks that he had 66, but he can have a lot of hands you beat here.
what hands do we beat here? I say at best i'm up against a10 or jj

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 03:27 PM

View PostJujoki3, on Friday, February 1st, 2008, 11:26 PM, said:

what hands do we beat here? I say at best i'm up against a10
We beat JJ, top pair and any number of club draws. Oh, and maybe a bluff every now and then.

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 04:41 PM

View Postsimo_8ball, on Friday, February 1st, 2008, 1:52 PM, said:

Ya, this is a shove.Sucks that he had 66, but he can have a lot of hands you beat here.
Like what?I'm folding this, I think, unless I think the guy is a lunatic. I think shoving is overly optimistic that he is bluffing or has AT or JJ, maybe AcTc. Puke.
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Posted 01 February 2008 - 05:03 PM

View PostNoBBiR, on Saturday, February 2nd, 2008, 12:41 AM, said:

Like what?I'm folding this, I think, unless I think the guy is a lunatic. I think shoving is overly optimistic that he is bluffing or has AT or JJ, maybe AcTc. Puke.
Top pair is a club, so TP+FD is possible. He can easily have JTc, T8c, KTc, ATc here, or 45c/89c. He could have AXcc and be playing the overcard(s)+FD aggressively. He could be putting us on a flush draw and be betting any top pair. He could have JJ. He could be bluffing (it's not completely unheard of).




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