fold to river bet? (nl hand)

#1

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Posted 02 May 2005 - 06:30 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converterBB ($323.96)UTG ($87.6)MP ($472)Hero ($398)SB ($875.58)Preflop: Hero is Button with [Kd], [Kc]. SB posts a blind of $2. 2 folds, SB (poster) calls $11, BB calls $9.Flop: ($39) [8d], [5s], [5h] (3 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $25, SB calls $25, BB folds.Turn: ($89) [7h] (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $55, SB calls $55.River: ($199) [3h] (2 players)SB bets $125, Hero calls $125.Final Pot: $449So, like the title says, should i fold to this river bet? It was only my third or 4th hand at the table, and this was the first time i had played with this guy. thoughts?

#2 allinbluff35

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Posted 02 May 2005 - 06:38 PM

so no reads, PT stats, or gametime +?

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Posted 02 May 2005 - 06:46 PM

VP$IP 38% and pfr 9.5% over 60 hands, which, from what i've seen, isn't out of the norm at a nl 6 max table. also, no blind defense numbers to go with either.

#4 DCWildcat

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Posted 02 May 2005 - 06:54 PM

Pretty sure you're beat here. The pot going to the river is around $200, so his bet makes it $325, giving you 2.5-1...I'd say definately lay this down except that I have no idea what the hell he'd be calling with. Looks to me like he made a stupid call and is holding onto 78s, A8s, or A5s.

#5 allinbluff35

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Posted 02 May 2005 - 07:12 PM

BB ($323.96)UTG ($87.6)MP ($472)Hero ($398)SB ($875.58)Preflop: Hero is Button with [Kd], [Kc]. SB posts a blind of $2. 2 folds, SB (poster) calls $11, BB calls $9.are 3 1/3 * BB raises normal at the $400NL 6 max tables? I guess if i'm opening the action and I've got KK I think the standard 4*BB raise is better.Flop: ($39) [8d], [5s], [5h] (3 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $25, SB calls $25, BB folds.I like potting the flop here to see where you're at since you just sat down at the table, I also think you could put villian on a range of hands then.Turn: ($89) [7h] (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $55, SB calls $55.I think your turn bet here was weak, I'd much rather put in $75 right here and fold to a push.River: ($199) [3h] (2 players)SB bets $125, Hero calls $125.I'm really torn about what the line for the river should be, i'll see if I can try to find a better line throughout the hand.Final Pot: $449hope everything worked out and he had J's or 10's

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Posted 02 May 2005 - 07:29 PM

are 3 1/3 * BB raises normal at the $400NL 6 max tables? I guess if i'm opening the action and I've got KK I think the standard 4*BB raise is better. If i'm opening a pot, it's 13 regardless of what I have. But that's just me. Standards vary from player to player. Some make minimum raises and some go to 5x.I like potting the flop here to see where you're at since you just sat down at the table, I also think you could put villian on a range of hands then. This is something I'm working on changing. I generally go with a little more than 1/2 the pot. But i'm finding that people still chase flushes a lot. Bigger raises definately shut down more draws.I think your turn bet here was weak, I'd much rather put in $75 right here and fold to a push. I think this is similar to the flop bet and I agree that it should be more.I'm really torn about what the line for the river should be, i'll see if I can try to find a better line throughout the hand. hope everything worked out and he had J's or 10'sNo such luck....6s9s