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[simo_8ball]

Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.505 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $59.80CO: $131.15Hero: $53SB: $48.75BB: $48.50Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with any pair 22-AA (with no diamond)UTG folds, CO calls, Hero raises to $2.5, 2 folds, CO calls.Flop: 8 6 2 ($5.75, 2 players)CO checks, Hero bets $4, CO raises to $15Villain is 31/21/12 over 120 hands.I think he almost never limps 77+ from the CO.What is your line with each pair (other than shoving sets obv)? Do you fold 77 or 99 here?Where's the cutoff between stacking off and folding?

[Metternich]

I go broke with anything JJ+, lower PPs I call and wait for the turn brick.I think that action like this is a good draw (FD+gutshots, OESFD, NFD, FD+overs etc) way more often than it is a set, probably something like 85% of the time. We're probably coinflipping at this point, so we might as well wait for a safe turn before getting it in. If the turn is something bad like 9 of diamonds we can fold

[Dictius]

What's the difference between 99, TT and JJ? If we are ahead with JJ-AA we are likely to be ahead with 99-TT too so theres no point in waiting till the turn. I don't think the villain would ever call/call preflop with TT+

[simo_8ball]

FWIW, I don't think he's particularly likely to check/raise with a naked 8 here.

[Metternich]

I say JJ+ because it does better than 99/1010 against a FD+Overs.

[simo_8ball]

It seems anyone I talk to says:1/ Felt everything, he has a draw,2/ Shove with JJ+, call with 77,99,TT and shove any non turn,or3/ Fold everything, he has a set.

[NoBBiR]

Fold everything, he has a set.

[BuffDan]

Dictius, on Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 5:02 PM, said:

What's the difference between 99, TT and JJ? If we are ahead with JJ-AA we are likely to be ahead with 99-TT too so theres no point in waiting till the turn. I don't think the villain would ever call/call preflop with TT+

Well, if we have JJ then there are two other hands the villain could have, namely 99 and TT, that we are ahead of. And, as was mentioned before, if villain has a flush draw, it is more likely that the villain has only one over, helping our equity in that case as well.