simo_8ball 1 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.505 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $59.80CO: $131.15Hero: $53SB: $48.75BB: $48.50Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with any pair 22-AA (with no diamond)UTG folds, CO calls, Hero raises to $2.5, 2 folds, CO calls.Flop: 8 6 2 ($5.75, 2 players)CO checks, Hero bets $4, CO raises to $15Villain is 31/21/12 over 120 hands.I think he almost never limps 77+ from the CO.What is your line with each pair (other than shoving sets obv)? Do you fold 77 or 99 here?Where's the cutoff between stacking off and folding? Link to post Share on other sites
Metternich 0 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I go broke with anything JJ+, lower PPs I call and wait for the turn brick.I think that action like this is a good draw (FD+gutshots, OESFD, NFD, FD+overs etc) way more often than it is a set, probably something like 85% of the time. We're probably coinflipping at this point, so we might as well wait for a safe turn before getting it in. If the turn is something bad like 9 of diamonds we can fold Link to post Share on other sites
Dictius 0 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 What's the difference between 99, TT and JJ? If we are ahead with JJ-AA we are likely to be ahead with 99-TT too so theres no point in waiting till the turn. I don't think the villain would ever call/call preflop with TT+ Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 FWIW, I don't think he's particularly likely to check/raise with a naked 8 here. Link to post Share on other sites
Metternich 0 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I say JJ+ because it does better than 99/1010 against a FD+Overs. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted January 31, 2008 Author Share Posted January 31, 2008 It seems anyone I talk to says:1/ Felt everything, he has a draw,2/ Shove with JJ+, call with 77,99,TT and shove any non turn,or3/ Fold everything, he has a set. Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Fold everything, he has a set. Link to post Share on other sites
BuffDan 0 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 What's the difference between 99, TT and JJ? If we are ahead with JJ-AA we are likely to be ahead with 99-TT too so theres no point in waiting till the turn. I don't think the villain would ever call/call preflop with TT+Well, if we have JJ then there are two other hands the villain could have, namely 99 and TT, that we are ahead of. And, as was mentioned before, if villain has a flush draw, it is more likely that the villain has only one over, helping our equity in that case as well. Link to post Share on other sites
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