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[StilettoNole]

To be honest, I don't really have any significant reads on villain. He has seemed standard and hasn't done anything out of line.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)Button ($24.80)SB ($25.35)Hero ($61.90)UTG ($19.90)MP ($21.25)CO ($24.65)Preflop: Hero is BB with , . 1 fold, MP raises to $0.85, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.60.Flop: ($1.80) , , (2 players)Hero checks, MP checks.Turn: ($1.80) (2 players)Hero bets $1, MP raises to $3.85, Hero raises to $10.25, MP raises to $24.25 (All-In), Hero ?How often does he wake up with A-J here? Does my line up to this point seem right? Do you flat his first raise on the turn? Can I really fold here?

[NoBBiR]

StilettoNole, on Friday, January 18th, 2008, 9:23 AM, said:

To be honest, I don't really have any significant reads on villain. He has seemed standard and hasn't done anything out of line.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)Button ($24.80)SB ($25.35)Hero ($61.90)UTG ($19.90)MP ($21.25)CO ($24.65)Preflop: Hero is BB with , . 1 fold, MP raises to $0.85, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.60.Flop: ($1.80) , , (2 players)Hero checks, MP checks.Turn: ($1.80) (2 players)Hero bets $1, MP raises to $3.85, Hero raises to $10.25, MP raises to $24.25 (All-In), Hero ?1. How often does he wake up with A-J here? 2. Does my line up to this point seem right? 3. Do you flat his first raise on the turn? 4. Can I really fold here?

1. Somewhat often.2. Yes.3. No.4. No, you cannot.

[Metternich]

I lead the flop and get it in on the turn.

[NoBBiR]

Metternich, on Friday, January 18th, 2008, 11:00 AM, said:

I lead the flop and get it in on the turn.

Do you donk into the PFR a lot with TP? Maybe raise the flop, but I don't think leading is good.

[rdtedm]

NoBBiR, on Friday, January 18th, 2008, 1:13 PM, said:

Do you donk into the PFR a lot with TP? Maybe raise the flop, but I don't think leading is good.

I think your line is completely standard. I'll usually check this flop (95%+) of the time vs. most opponents because good players will raise a donkbet and now we're OOP with an escalating pot and TPGK. I might opt for a C/R on the flop to get value from his missed hands that he c-bets. As for the turn, it's completely standard although villain shows up with J9/AJ/QQ/1010/88 here a ton. I don't think any hand that we beat 4-bet shoves like villain does. Two pair type hands probably call hero's 3-bet since two pair might not be best on a somewhat straighty (word?) board. I think I fold to the 4-bet, but your line is completely fine.

[BuffDan]

That flop check combined with waking up on the turn always scares me. It seems to mean he either missed the flop or flopped a big hand he wants to slow play, like a set of queens or tens (or possibly 9J since this is 6 handed). And if he missed the flop, and went nuts on the turn, that could be AK, but it could also be AJ (and would he go that crazy with AK?). I guess this could also be QT, which is the only slowplaying hand we beat. So it seems he plays more hands that beat us like this than hands we beat, but by the time we figure it out, there is a lot of money in the pot. So I don't know, but I think I would like to be able to fold in this situation.

[ah2388]

sorry man, im absolutely baffled at your flop check.as played there is no way we can fold

[Sheiky]

ah2388, on Saturday, January 19th, 2008, 12:39 PM, said:

sorry man, im absolutely baffled at your flop check.as played there is no way we can fold

Flop check is 100000% standard.Hero is OOP and was not the aggressor PF, checking it to the PF raiser is what most people do with 99% of their range in this spot.

[ah2388]

I guess I'm almost never calling with KQ oop, Im either 3 betting or folding...This is just a really weird spot given the way that I play.

[NoBBiR]

ah2388, on Saturday, January 19th, 2008, 6:21 AM, said:

I guess I'm almost never calling with KQ oop, Im either 3 betting or folding...This is just a really weird spot given the way that I play.

What, do you never play a hand OOP? Are you a robot?