Hall Of Fame Finalists Announced

[WKTSWAY 0]

Linky HereMcDaniel Finally on the list...he may not make it this year, but that looks good for him getting in some time.I think Monk will get snubbed again because Carter is an easy first ballot choice. Green should also get in easy. After that it seems like a toss up between a lot of good choices. I think Zimmerman should get in though.

[brvheart 1,768]

I'll help your thread by posting necessary information... you're welcome.Listed alphabetically, the 17 finalists with their positions, teams, and years active follow:Cris Carter – Wide Receiver – 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami DolphinsFred Dean – Defensive End – 1975-1981 San Diego Chargers, 1981-85 San Francisco 49ersRichard Dent – Defensive End – 1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia EaglesMarshall Goldberg – Back – 1939-1943, 1946-48 Chicago CardinalsRandy Gradishar – Linebacker – 1974-1983 Denver BroncosDarrell Green – Cornerback – 1983-2002 Washington RedskinsRuss Grimm – Guard – 1981-1991 Washington RedskinsRay Guy – Punter – 1973-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles RaidersBob Kuechenberg – Guard – 1970-1984 Miami DolphinsRandall McDaniel – Guard – 1988-1999 Minnesota Vikings, 2000-2001 Tampa Bay BuccaneersArt Monk – Wide Receiver – 1980-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 New York Jets, 1995 Philadelphia EaglesAndre Reed – Wide Receiver – 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington RedskinsPaul Tagliabue – Commissioner – 1989-2006 National Football LeagueDerrick Thomas – Linebacker – 1989-1999 Kansas City ChiefsEmmitt Thomas – Cornerback – 1966-1978 Kansas City ChiefsAndre Tippett – Linebacker – 1982-1993 New England PatriotsGary Zimmerman – Tackle – 1986-1992 Minnesota Vikings, 1993-97 Denver Broncos I'll highlight the guys I think should make it this year....

[Miguel McHarris 0]

I'll help your thread by posting necessary information... you're welcome.Listed alphabetically, the 17 finalists with their positions, teams, and years active follow:Cris Carter – Wide Receiver – 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami DolphinsFred Dean – Defensive End – 1975-1981 San Diego Chargers, 1981-85 San Francisco 49ersRichard Dent – Defensive End – 1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia EaglesMarshall Goldberg – Back – 1939-1943, 1946-48 Chicago CardinalsRandy Gradishar – Linebacker – 1974-1983 Denver BroncosDarrell Green – Cornerback – 1983-2002 Washington RedskinsRuss Grimm – Guard – 1981-1991 Washington RedskinsRay Guy – Punter – 1973-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles RaidersBob Kuechenberg – Guard – 1970-1984 Miami DolphinsRandall McDaniel – Guard – 1988-1999 Minnesota Vikings, 2000-2001 Tampa Bay BuccaneersArt Monk – Wide Receiver – 1980-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 New York Jets, 1995 Philadelphia EaglesAndre Reed – Wide Receiver – 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington RedskinsPaul Tagliabue – Commissioner – 1989-2006 National Football LeagueDerrick Thomas – Linebacker – 1989-1999 Kansas City ChiefsEmmitt Thomas – Cornerback – 1966-1978 Kansas City ChiefsAndre Tippett – Linebacker – 1982-1993 New England PatriotsGary Zimmerman – Tackle – 1986-1992 Minnesota Vikings, 1993-97 Denver Broncos I'll highlight the guys I think should make it this year....

No way a punter should be in the hall of fame.

[brvheart 1,768]

No way a punter should be in the hall of fame.

You are not correct. Every position should be represented.

[CaneBrain 97]

Bob Kuechenberg should have been in the HOF a long time ago. Every crusty, old Dolphins fan thinks he was the best lineman on those 70s Fins teams and since those teams were the best running teams of all time he deserves to get in. Monk should wait a year.

[DrawingDeadInDM 0]

No way a punter should be in the hall of fame.

Why?

[Miguel McHarris 0]

You are not correct. Every position should be represented.

I disagree!

Why?

Because he's a punter. He kicks the ball and that's it. Every position on offense and defense has more than one responsibility. Whether it's blocking, passing, coverage, route running, etc. Ever seen a punter try to make a tackle?

[DrawingDeadInDM 0]

I disagree!Because he's a punter. He kicks the ball and that's it. Every position on offense and defense has more than one responsibility. Whether it's blocking, passing, coverage, route running, etc. Ever seen a punter try to make a tackle?

If your team has ever had a really bad punter or a really good punter, you know what having a good one can mean. Being the greatest all time at your position and having ginormous effects on field position for teams that won Super Bowls = Hall of Fame.

[Miguel McHarris 0]

If your team has ever had a really bad punter or a really good punter, you know what having a good one can mean. Being the greatest all time at your position and having ginormous effects on field position for teams that won Super Bowls = Hall of Fame.

Not really. In any given year in the NFL the difference between first and worst in punting avg. is usually less than 10 yds. The Raiders and 49ers were the two best punting team in the NFL this year. Seahawks and the Giants were the worst.

[brvheart 1,768]

I disagree!Because he's a punter. He kicks the ball and that's it. Every position on offense and defense has more than one responsibility. Whether it's blocking, passing, coverage, route running, etc. Ever seen a punter try to make a tackle?

A punter can have a huge effect on a game... did you see the Chargers / Colts game Sunday? The Chargers punter punted a 60 some yard punt at the end of the game, and could easily be credited with the victory. You're just wrong, and that's ok.

Not really. In any given year in the NFL the difference between first and worst in punting avg. is usually less than 10 yds. The Raiders and 49ers were the two best punting team in the NFL this year. Seahawks and the Giants were the worst.

Do you realize how much more a 10 yd AVERAGE is? hint: It's a big deal.

[DrawingDeadInDM 0]

Not really. In any given year in the NFL the difference between first and worst in punting avg. is usually less than 10 yds. The Raiders and 49ers were the two best punting team in the NFL this year. Seahawks and the Giants were the worst.

You're right..a 50 yard field goal attempt to win the game is really no different than a 40 yard attempt.

[gatortom64 1]

No way a punter should be in the hall of fame.

You Sir, Are an idiot.

[Miguel McHarris 0]

A punter can have a huge effect on a game... did you see the Chargers / Colts game Sunday? The Chargers punter punted a 60 some yard punt at the end of the game, and could easily be credited with the victory. You're just wrong, and that's ok.Do you realize how much more a 10 yd AVERAGE is? hint: It's a big deal.

I sure did. I also saw Manning throw 2 interceptions and Rivers throw 3 TD. Ya know, the key positions. And no, I don't think 10 yds is a big deal. Try telling that to the Niners and Raiders. They had that ten extra yards this year and were two of the worst teams in the league. Great teams overcome that 10yds, and don't have to punt as much. See New England.

You're right..a 50 yard field goal attempt to win the game is really no different than a 40 yard attempt.

See above. Agree to disagree.

You Sir, Are an idiot.

May as well go for the gold.

[7s7c 0]

Ray Guy should have been in long ago. The guy (pun intended) has a collegiate best at respective position trophy named after him. Kickers are in, so should punters.

[SuperJon 175]

I disagree!Because he's a punter. He kicks the ball and that's it. Every position on offense and defense has more than one responsibility. Whether it's blocking, passing, coverage, route running, etc. Ever seen a punter try to make a tackle?

So a punter isn't important?Here's what I want you to do.Save up some money, like a lot. At least 1 billion dollars, that should be more than enough.Then I want you to purchase any NFL team of your choice. Once the deal goes through, I want you do fire the punter.That's right, just fire him. Now you have no punter, but that's okay. So now it's 4th and 15, and you're pinned on your own 2 yard line. Well you fired your meaningless punter, so I guess you have to go for it. Uh oh, turnover on downs. Looks like the other team is going to get an easy score.

[JoeyJoJo 20]

So a punter isn't important?Here's what I want you to do.Save up some money, like a lot. At least 1 billion dollars, that should be more than enough.Then I want you to purchase any NFL team of your choice. Once the deal goes through, I want you do fire the punter.That's right, just fire him. Now you have no punter, but that's okay. So now it's 4th and 15, and you're pinned on your own 2 yard line. Well you fired your meaningless punter, so I guess you have to go for it. Uh oh, turnover on downs. Looks like the other team is going to get an easy score.

TMQ

[Miguel McHarris 0]

So a punter isn't important?Here's what I want you to do.Save up some money, like a lot. At least 1 billion dollars, that should be more than enough.Then I want you to purchase any NFL team of your choice. Once the deal goes through, I want you do fire the punter.That's right, just fire him. Now you have no punter, but that's okay. So now it's 4th and 15, and you're pinned on your own 2 yard line. Well you fired your meaningless punter, so I guess you have to go for it. Uh oh, turnover on downs. Looks like the other team is going to get an easy score.

Maybe I will! Actually, I never said I didn't want a punter. My point is, it doesn't matter who the punter is. It really doesn't. The Raiders of the late 70s/early 80s won 3 Super Bowls by 18, 17, and 29 points. Those 3 Super Bowls produced 12 hall of famers. That's right. 12. Pretty fuckin awesome. Look it up. There is no way that Ray Guy, a punter, should be included amongst those names.

TMQ

Well then, maybe I don't want a punter. That'll save me 600k a year.

[CaneBrain 97]

Not really. In any given year in the NFL the difference between first and worst in punting avg. is usually less than 10 yds. The Raiders and 49ers were the two best punting team in the NFL this year. Seahawks and the Giants were the worst.

punt average is a terrible way to measure who had the best punting unit.NET punting avg is a great way to measure it. There were two punters who had net avg's of over 40 yards this year.....something no one had ever done before.

[Buckeye Hughes 0]

Ray Guy changed the way the game was played by having a huge impact on field position. He should be in.I agree with brvheart's picks but would add Darrell Green. He was a lockdown corner before the term was in vogue. The fastest player in the NFL for a good portion of his career, he also was a fearsome punt returner.

[WKTSWAY 0]

I'll help your thread by posting necessary information... you're welcome.Listed alphabetically, the 17 finalists with their positions, teams, and years active follow:Cris Carter – Wide Receiver – 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami DolphinsFred Dean – Defensive End – 1975-1981 San Diego Chargers, 1981-85 San Francisco 49ersRichard Dent – Defensive End – 1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia EaglesMarshall Goldberg – Back – 1939-1943, 1946-48 Chicago CardinalsRandy Gradishar – Linebacker – 1974-1983 Denver BroncosDarrell Green – Cornerback – 1983-2002 Washington RedskinsRuss Grimm – Guard – 1981-1991 Washington RedskinsRay Guy – Punter – 1973-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles RaidersBob Kuechenberg – Guard – 1970-1984 Miami DolphinsRandall McDaniel – Guard – 1988-1999 Minnesota Vikings, 2000-2001 Tampa Bay BuccaneersArt Monk – Wide Receiver – 1980-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 New York Jets, 1995 Philadelphia EaglesAndre Reed – Wide Receiver – 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington RedskinsPaul Tagliabue – Commissioner – 1989-2006 National Football LeagueDerrick Thomas – Linebacker – 1989-1999 Kansas City ChiefsEmmitt Thomas – Cornerback – 1966-1978 Kansas City ChiefsAndre Tippett – Linebacker – 1982-1993 New England PatriotsGary Zimmerman – Tackle – 1986-1992 Minnesota Vikings, 1993-97 Denver Broncos I'll highlight the guys I think should make it this year....

Players who made it:Darrell GreenArt MonkGary ZimmermanAndre TippettFred DeanEmmitt ThomasIt's great that Monk finally got in, but I thought he would get snubbed again this year since Carter was there. I find it a little weird that the guy who was the commissioner during the best growth of the NFL didn't make it for the 2nd straight year, but there's no way he's not getting in at some point. Also interesting that they are finally voting a lot of defensive players in...there' weren't any big QBs or RBs this year, so that's to be expected, but offensive players were going in 2:1 over defensive players over the last bunch of years.