Kk For 100bb's Vs. A Rock

[NoBBiR 0]

SB Villain is a rock. 12/10/2 over 350.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)UTG ($24.65)MP ($60.70)CO ($25)Hero ($49.30)SB ($33.80)BB ($23.65)Preflop: Hero is Button with K, K. UTG raises to $0.85, 2 folds, Hero raises to $3.25, SB raises to $10.95, 1 fold, UTG folds, Hero pukes?Please note that this was a 4 bet from a different player than the original raiser.Oh, and this is like my third hand at the table.

[ROBBBIGG 0]

SB Villain is a rock. 12/10/2 over 350. Original raiser folds to the four bet.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)UTG ($24.65)MP ($60.70)CO ($25)Hero ($49.30)SB ($33.80)BB ($23.65)Preflop: Hero is Button with K, K. UTG raises to $0.85, 2 folds, Hero raises to $3.25, SB raises to $10.95, 1 fold, UTG folds, Hero pukes?Please note that this was a 4 bet from a different player than the original raiser.

12/10 isn't THAT tight. I'm a 15/12 6 handed and I have more than aces when I do this. As hero I'm shoving here 100% of the time.

[NoBBiR 0]

I should note that his stats aren't completely synonymous with his play, but he is a rock.

[koolromeo 0]

in my expirience, three bets from rocks in low limit games are usually aces. if it was full ring, iwould possibly muck. six handed you have to shove i think.

[Royal_Tour 0]

7.00 to see a flop.he has 23 behind. which you will most likely get, even from a rock.if anyone can make a reason to call and go to a flop, i vote for it.otherwise, i puke.

[Acid_Knight 2]

12/10 isn't THAT tight. I'm a 15/12 6 handed and I have more than aces when I do this. As hero I'm shoving here 100% of the time.

12/10 is VERY VERY tight. 15/12 is tight. If you don't think 15/12 is tight, what would you call it? That said, your raise is pretty huge of the original opener, which would tilt your range more towards TT+ and AQ+, so I think that shoving preflop is fine. He's pretty well committed to the pot, so you should get snap called by AK and QQ here in addition to your best friend, AA.

[mtdesmoines 2]

Hero pukes?Please note that this was a 4 bet from a different player than the original raiser.Oh, and this is like my third hand at the table.

What is YOUR image to the SB?If you have 350 hands on him, what do his stats probably say about you?Have you been aggressive on the button?A smooth call with a CRAI on the flop is sweet here.

[ROBBBIGG 0]

12/10 is VERY VERY tight. 15/12 is tight. If you don't think 15/12 is tight, what would you call it?

It's tight, but I'm not assuming someone with either stats is 3 betting from the sb with Aces and Aces only.

[NoBBiR 0]

So is this like a split decision on calling/shoving?My problems with calling, we're letting all hands see a flop that we have crushed preflop, excluding AA obv.My problems with shoving, do you really think he is committed enough to call our 5 bet with anything but Aces or the other two Kings? He still basically has 80bb's left and shoving basically tells him "I have KK or AA, so call if you want."

[Acid_Knight 2]

So is this like a split decision on calling/shoving?My problems with calling, we're letting all hands see a flop that we have crushed preflop, excluding AA obv.My problems with shoving, do you really think he is committed enough to call our 5 bet with anything but Aces or the other two Kings? He still basically has 80bb's left and shoving basically tells him "I have KK or AA, so call if you want."

For the most part, people do NOT 4-bet fold in a spot like this. If he's got QQ or AK, he's probably going down with that ship after playing it like this.

[mtdesmoines 2]

What is YOUR image to the SB?If you have 350 hands on him, what do his stats probably say about you?Have you been aggressive on the button?

Oh, and this is like my third hand at the table.

Oh.

A smooth call with a CRAI on the flop is sweet here.

I still like this, provided there's no ace, obv.

My problems with calling, we're letting all hands see a flop that we have crushed preflop, excluding AA obv. My problems with shoving, do you really think he is committed enough to call our 5 bet with anything but Aces or the other two Kings? He still basically has 80bb's left and shoving basically tells him "I have KK or AA, so call if you want."

We don't fold KK.

For the most part, people do NOT 4-bet fold in a spot like this. If he's got QQ or AK, he's probably going down with that ship after playing it like this.