Canuckickstan 2 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 New to live play and first time at this casino. No reads as I was just called from the waiting list. I sat down in late pos with $150 (1/2) and get a hand without posting.The other stacks looked to be around $200.Hero-AJ in the cutoff with 5 limpers. I make it $15 and get 5 callers. Flop A J K Checked to me, bet $50 into $90 pot and get 2 calls. (pot $240)Turn Q and the first to act pushes in $125, folds to me. Hero $85 left ?I should mention that the table let out a groan as they saw the queen. Now that I do the math my decision should not have been that hard. Thoughts ? Link to post Share on other sites
ah2388 0 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 absolute best case scenario this is a better two pair....insta fold/reload Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 At this point, what are you beating? Link to post Share on other sites
Canuckickstan 2 Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 At this point, what are you beating?KQAce ragThe guy who doesn't have a 10 ??I would think AK would have raised in front of me. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Have more money preflop.Bet more on the flop, like, the whole pot. I wouldn't even hate if you shoved just cause of your stack size.I fold the turn. Link to post Share on other sites
Willing 2 Die 0 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Sorry, but i just can't see Villian having a 10 in his hand. He called the flop with A10? Thats garbage. What are the odds we need to boat up on the river? The pot is laying us 3 to 1, plus the fact we only have $85 left. I'd feel better just sticking it in trusting my gut that he's betting with his two pair, then reload with a fresh $200 if we're wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Sorry, but i just can't see Villian having a 10 in his hand. He called the flop with A10? Thats garbage. What are the odds we need to boat up on the river? The pot is laying us 3 to 1, plus the fact we only have $85 left. I'd feel better just sticking it in trusting my gut that he's betting with his two pair, then reload with a fresh $200 if we're wrong.If you're implying that he called the flop with KQ/QJ then it's just as likely that he's got AT/KT/QT/JT or a better 2 pair and has us beaten. Link to post Share on other sites
Willing 2 Die 0 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 If you're implying that he called the flop with KQ/QJ then it's just as likely that he's got AT/KT/QT/JT or a better 2 pair and has us beaten.True. I guess i'm thinking in terms of what i would not call the flop with, which is far different than most 1-2 players.We've got $85 left. We're actually getting 4 to 1 odds on our $85 investment (which can't be to far off the odds of hitting our boat) so i just stick it here and if he has a 10, so be it, he played it awful and got lucky. Just such a sick first hand at the table thou. Link to post Share on other sites
Canuckickstan 2 Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 True. I guess i'm thinking in terms of what i would not call the flop with, which is far different than most 1-2 players.We've got $85 left. We're actually getting 4 to 1 odds on our $85 investment (which can't be to far off the odds of hitting our boat) so i just stick it here and if he has a 10, so be it, he played it awful and got lucky. Just such a sick first hand at the table thou.This is what Patrick(Rab) and my wife pointed out to me after the fact. I think I had 6 outs to win and possibly 3 10s to chop. I was a little too nervous to do the correct math at the time. 1 thing though, live 1/2 is a fairly loose game compared to what I am used to. I saw guys calling raises with all sorts of crap. Link to post Share on other sites
fdsafdsa 0 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 This is what Patrick(Rab) and my wife pointed out to me after the fact. I think I had 6 outs to win and possibly 3 10s to chop. I was a little too nervous to do the correct math at the time. 1 thing though, live 1/2 is a fairly loose game compared to what I am used to. I saw guys calling raises with all sorts of crap.How on earth could you have 6 outs to win? Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 How on earth could you have 6 outs to win?He miscounted, he's got 4 outs. Relax. Link to post Share on other sites
fdsafdsa 0 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 He miscounted, he's got 4 outs. Relax.No Link to post Share on other sites
Canuckickstan 2 Posted January 15, 2008 Author Share Posted January 15, 2008 He miscounted, he's got 4 outs. Relax.Yep, my bad. This is assuming villian doesn't have AK or AQ, which he would have limped with. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Have more money preflop.This is my favorite advice ever. Link to post Share on other sites
MyPlayIsRAB 0 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 pumped for grey eagle friday imo. will be going every day til then as well, but still. like i said at the casino, i snap here every time in a 12 live game Link to post Share on other sites
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