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Villain is a donk, 58/2/2.50, he thinks I have made so moves on him in the past when I had some legitimate hands in the past. Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $1/$2 6 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $91Hero: $358.05CO: $200Button: $148.40SB: $316.20BB: $70.75Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 4 :D 4 :) UTG folds, Hero raises to $7, 3 folds, BB calls.Flop: A :club: J :D A :D ($15, 2 players)BB checks, Hero checks.Turn: 4 :) ($15, 2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $10, BB calls.River: J :D ($35, 2 players)BB bets $16, Hero ...

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Fold. 5 high beats you and if he thinks you might be making a move on him he's calling with king high and definitely not folding his boat.
5 high is no good here.
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5 high is no good here.
Oh yeah (totally forgot that when your boat is likely counterfeited, you still have a boat :club: )In that case I probably call if villain is awful and can bluff here. Short of that specific read I fold.
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You're all sure that this is a bluff <20% of the time? We're getting > 3:1 on the river call. I think villain's range is heavily weighted toward KQ, KT, QT type hands that think you're FOS on the turn bet. Realistically villain should assume that the turn couldn't have possibly improved your hand. I think he's value betting K high enough here for us to call profitably.

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Players don't bluff a lot on boards like this. If he is bluffing, he's taking a very odd line anyway. I think you get shown a J way more often than you'd like if you want to call and still show a profit.

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If you call you're probably losing, I'd say you might win if you put in a healthy raise here, he'll fold a jack as long as he's not retarded. He's not betting 1/2 pot here with king high into a solid player, imo. I'd probably just fold, though. not worth it.

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Villain is a donk, 58/2/2.50, he thinks I have made so moves on him in the past when I had some legitimate hands in the past.
hes not folding a jack here ever
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