bdc30 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.505 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $51.10CO: $51.30Button: $14.80SB: $103.40Hero: $56.85Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with K K 3 folds, SB raises to $1.5, Hero raises to $6, SB raises to $54.75,Villain is like 16/8 - what else does he do this with? Link to post Share on other sites
Syntonic 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 When I first looked at this, I would have said it's a fold if you think you have a good read, and I think a fold is reasonable. However, I noticed it's six-max. I have such a hard time folding a hand like this short handed.I'm a nitty full ring player. Is this ever a fold when it's six handed? I mean, without a good read / notes?I think I would make this call; wouldn't someone with AK or QQ make the same little donkshove 4-bet like that? Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowKill 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Can't fold K's in this situation. Folding this hand here is a losing situation in the long run. If a 3 bet reraise from the small blind will make you fold K's I'd love to have you in my game any day. A call is definitely warranted here. If he is uber-aggressive he could probably be doing this with a hand as weak as 10's or J's if he thinks you are just trying to steal here. Like decypher says the situation might be different in a full ring game but given the inability to get too much information from a small blind bet it is a must call. Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Author Share Posted January 11, 2008 I fail to see the difference (in this case) between 6max and full ring. A blind battle is a blind battle. Link to post Share on other sites
Dictius 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I've found that these random overshoves are usually not AA, but it depends on the player yeah?Could easily be QQ+, AQs, AK. Maybe even JJ if the guys a donk.Don't fold KK, call. Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I fail to see the difference (in this case) between 6max and full ring. A blind battle is a blind battle.Because - he is putting you on weaker holding because it is 6-max, and you should be returning the favor.Do not fold. People do this with AK and QQ a lot, I don't care what he rolls over, I'm never folding. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Instacall, imo. Link to post Share on other sites
mikeysong 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 u should be jumping up out of your chair screaming "I GOT YOU!" Link to post Share on other sites
GeneralGeeWhiz 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 u should be jumping up out of your chair screaming "I GOT YOU!"+1 lol Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Instacall, imo.yep Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I fail to see the difference (in this case) between 6max and full ring. A blind battle is a blind battle.Yeah, I think it's the same in an optimal strategy sense. On the other hand, villains who are playing in 6-max are less likely to play too passively in this situation. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 u should be jumping up out of your chair screaming "I GOT YOU!"It's a 6 max BvB battle and a guy just overshoved of a standard reraise. I couldn't possibly get my chips in any faster here and I'd already be counting how many Junior Bacon Cheeseburgers I could buy with my profits! Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 It's a 6 max BvB battle and a guy just overshoved of a standard reraise. I couldn't possibly get my chips in any faster here and I'd already be counting how many Junior Bacon Cheeseburgers I could buy with my profits! Link to post Share on other sites
thebenCA 0 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 I'd have a hard time laying down KK in a low stakes short handed game, unless I have really good read. Without knowing your specific read on the player, I tend to fall back on what I know of players in general at $.25/$.50. It's pretty common to see them overplay hands like 10-10, JJ, QQ, A-Ks, or even A-Qs (occasionally). Since there's only one hand within his range that scares you (AA) I think you have to call. Link to post Share on other sites
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