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[Balloon guy]

Say your life is a game of poker

Instead of being dealt two cards, you get to pick two cards, you pick Big Slick

Now the flop comes and you go all in.

The flop is Q 7 3 all spades. You turn over your cards and you have big slick: A and K

The atheist turns over blig slick as well, but A K


When the end comes the pot will be either split, or you will win it all, because you are FREEROLLING


<------Free rolling baby

[simo_8ball]

K :clubs:

You fail at internets

K

Your point is therefore invalid.

Mwuhahahaha

[simo_8ball]

The biggest problem with Pascal's Wager (your underlying theory) is that it works on the assumption that believing in God is something you can choose to do.

Could you honestly choose to believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

[Balloon guy]

You fail at internets

K

Your point is therefore invalid.

Mwuhahahaha

I concede.

Funny that Pascal was the computer language I was learning when I dropped out of college to make my fortune in heavy equipment. It's all a circle.

[DoinSublime]

trying to hang to anything you can there huh?

its ok bg, you can let it go.


edit - i meant your op, not your response

[Balloon guy]

trying to hang to anything you can there huh?

its ok bg, you can let it go.
edit - i meant your op, not your response

lol, I may be beaten, but I'm not defeated

<--freerolling

[checkymcfold]

the easiest way to dismiss pascal's wager is just to say:

for an atheist, the likelihood of his/her choice leading to eternal damnation yields about the same net hardship as spending his/her life inauthentically subscribing to a religious faith also adjusted for "probability."

for a religious practitioner, the apparent probabilities are different, so s/he believes.

both are fine, since there is no way of knowing the actual probability of there being a true religion AND the likelihood that someone who leads a good, honest life goes to hell unless s/he believes in the right god. but pascal is a douche.

[Balloon guy]

the easiest way to dismiss pascal's wager is just to say:

for an atheist, the likelihood of his/her choice leading to eternal damnation yields about the same net hardship as spending his/her life inauthentically subscribing to a religious faith also adjusted for "probability."

for a religious practitioner, the apparent probabilities are different, so s/he believes.

both are fine, since there is no way of knowing the actual probability of there being a true religion AND the likelihood that someone who leads a good, honest life goes to hell unless s/he believes in the right god. but pascal is a douche.

Dude I can read you like a book here.

You are betting strong

When you realize you cannot push me off my hand, and you cannot win, you will fold.

Next

[Balloon guy]

the easiest way to dismiss pascal's wager is just to say:

for an atheist, the likelihood of his/her choice leading to eternal damnation yields about the same net hardship as spending his/her life inauthentically subscribing to a religious faith also adjusted for "probability."

But to touch on this gem, what you are saying is the pot odds of 'living dishonestly' are 1:1 with living with eternal damnation.

I'm no math guy but I think your figures are off

[checkymcfold]

Dude I can read you like a book here.

You are betting strong

When you realize you cannot push me off my hand, and you cannot win, you will fold.

Next

i am not playing you, i am playing god, who does not exist for me. so when i raise him, his lack of existence vanishes, and his hand flutters to the table, one of his cards touching the muck. i rake the pot in religious ecstasy.

<<<winnar.

[checkymcfold]

But to touch on this gem, what you are saying is the pot odds of 'living dishonestly' are 1:1 with living with eternal damnation.

I'm no math guy but I think your figures are off

the point is that for an atheist, the odds of a religion being true are something like 1/1 billion, and then if that religion is true, the odds that being a good person without believing in god still leads to hell is like another 1/1 billion.

for a religious person, the odds are obviously different.

but there's no way to really mediate which odds are correct. so everyone should be allowed to estimate the odds for themselves and go from there. if pascal thinks that it's 50/50, he's a douchetard.

[jmkiser]

the point is that for an atheist, the odds of a religion being true are something like 1/1 billion, and then if that religion is true, the odds that being a good person without believing in god still leads to hell is like another 1/1 billion.

for a religious person, the odds are obviously different.

but there's no way to really mediate which odds are correct. so everyone should be allowed to estimate the odds for themselves and go from there. if pascal thinks that it's 50/50, he's a douchetard.

Complete douchetard

BG bets Pascal's wager, I raise a well-adjusted and fulfilled life on earth without any time wasted on worship

I just cracked your aces... it's ok... just breath really deep and let them go

[Sheiky]

But surely god can just look at the pocket hole card cams and tell that the only reason you're worshipping him is cause you don't want to go to hell?

Oh wait, that's the only reason anyone believes in him anyway...

[SuperJon]

So wait...what if I want to play H.O.R.S.E?

[Doug]

According to this game religion and atheism are both dumb as they picked AK over AA.

[Don Giovanni]

what if it turns out that the only god out there hates religious people and send them all to some kind of hell and rewards atheists? theres just as much of a chance and evidence of that being true as the christian god.

[Balloon guy]

what if it turns out that the only god out there hates religious people and send them all to some kind of hell and rewards atheists? theres just as much of a chance and evidence of that being true as the christian god.

So this is your plan? You hope you get rewarded by God for not believing in Him?

fold preflop

[Balloon guy]

According to this game religion and atheism are both dumb as they picked AK over AA.

Ahh but AA would take your free will out of the equation as AA would be an instanta call

[Balloon guy]

So wait...what if I want to play H.O.R.S.E?

Unfortunately we get the hand we are dealt and the game they are dealing

[Balloon guy]

the point is that for an atheist, the odds of a religion being true are something like 1/1 billion, and then if that religion is true, the odds that being a good person without believing in god still leads to hell is like another 1/1 billion.

for a religious person, the odds are obviously different.

but there's no way to really mediate which odds are correct. so everyone should be allowed to estimate the odds for themselves and go from there. if pascal thinks that it's 50/50, he's a douchetard.

So you are saying there is a chance?