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#1 Roo6339

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 04:04 AM

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, Q.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, 5 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (5.40 SB) K, K, Q (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks.

Turn: (2.70 BB) 9 (5 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds.

River: (5.70 BB) 3 (3 players)
Hero bets,

Final Pot: 7.70 BB

This is my first hand at the table. I figured no one bet the flop, no one raised the turn, I gotta be good for the river. Only plausible hand I can think of that beats me is a better queen.

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 04:10 AM

I probably play it the same. Do you fold to a raise on the river?
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Posted 04 January 2008 - 04:36 AM

I should but probably wouldn't.

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 05:37 AM

three players...eh...

i think i see more value in a check/call. and i would really hate over calling if it went down that way, but i think you have to.

too tight of me?
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Posted 04 January 2008 - 05:52 AM

I kinda like a flop lead.
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Posted 04 January 2008 - 06:41 AM

A lead into 4 players? I had planned to check/fold the flop, but obviously no one had a king. Is that too weak?

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 06:51 AM

QUOTE (Roo6339 @ Friday, January 4th, 2008, 9:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A lead into 4 players? I had planned to check/fold the flop, but obviously no one had a king. Is that too weak?

Yes, imo.
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Posted 05 January 2008 - 03:04 PM

w/o reading results.

HU on River, with a read, I might c/c to pick off a missed draw bluff.

3 handed, I like the lead.

B/F right?

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 03:07 PM

QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Friday, January 4th, 2008, 6:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, imo.


Even with our kicker?

I guess it would come down to any reads (which its our first hand) and how many players had called the bet/where it came from

But I would support a c/f on flop generally

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 03:39 PM

Eh, I'm so rusty in anything that isn't HU LHE.
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Posted 05 January 2008 - 06:15 PM

a river lead is pretty ugly IMO.
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Posted 05 January 2008 - 07:54 PM

QUOTE (navybuttons @ Saturday, January 5th, 2008, 7:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
a river lead is pretty ugly IMO.


Not likely to get called by a worse hand?

Do you suggest c/c?
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Posted 05 January 2008 - 08:30 PM

QUOTE (navybuttons @ Saturday, January 5th, 2008, 6:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
a river lead is pretty ugly IMO.


please elaborate.

You think we are called by better Qs to often?

You c/f or c.c depending on betting/callng?

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Posted 06 January 2008 - 11:45 AM

QUOTE (Actuary @ Saturday, January 5th, 2008, 8:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You think we are called by better Qs to often?


we chop all other Qs

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You c/f or c.c depending on betting/callng?


i don't think a river lead is as ugly as i thought it was last night. today, it holds more merit with me. meh. c/c or b/f. i'd be happy to c/c.
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Posted 06 January 2008 - 12:15 PM

QUOTE (navybuttons @ Sunday, January 6th, 2008, 2:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
we chop all other Qs


Huh?

We lose to AQ, KQ, QJ, QT.
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Posted 06 January 2008 - 12:54 PM

I like the way you played it.

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Posted 06 January 2008 - 01:38 PM

QUOTE (RabidTortuga @ Sunday, January 6th, 2008, 3:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Huh?

We lose to AQ, KQ, QJ, QT.

I think he just meant there isn't a Q that we beat.
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