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#1 sennin

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 01:07 AM

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Here's the hands I have questions on:

68 - Missed a bet here on the river. He was instacalling me and I really had no idea what he had. It was unlikely he had a K so when the flush got there I just decided to slow down. Afterwards I figured I should have bet 1/3-1/2 the pot and fold to a raise.

97 - I call a raise since we're both deep enough and flop a straight draw. I honestly have no idea how to play it OOP though and just decide to fold.

158 - I decide to fold as it doesnt look like I have enough odds to try and hit my set. The 6 obv comes, just wondering if I should have flicked in the call.

168 - Im thinking I shoulda just folded even to his minraise, im oop and it will cost too much to find out where I stand. No real reads on what his minraise meant, he had done alot of open minraising(and folding when he got popped) but this was the first time I saw him minreraise.

175 - Should I even bet this flop? Obviously I should have shut down on the turn but I decided to be a moron instead.

191 - Decided to shove here because I was out of position and assumed the shortstack was going to come along. Pretty sure I played this terribly lol. Should I have made it like 15k pre?

220 - Bet the flop? Or is checking down fine?

225 - Once again I flop a straight draw but im OOP. Really not sure how to play this. I considered shoving and probably would have if there wasnt 2 clubs on the flop.

234 - Hate playing against shortstacks like this. Should I just shove pre and hope to win the 60/40? Or should I shove the flop when I hit, and fold when i dont.

240 - Standard? I put him on 77ish and contemplated a value bet on the river but decided to play it safe.

338 - His minraise really wasnt anything to be afraid of at this point and I decided to pull a stop and go. I flop the set though and change my plans. If I didnt hit would shoving have been correct? Or should I just stick it in pre and pray?

340 - I think I should have called here. He was new to the table so I didnt have any reads on him except that his OPR for all time is positive. Considering hes a decent player his range is probably a little wider than I originally thought.

353 - I was new to this table, no idea what the 4x raise UTG meant. Is AJs good enough here? Or was I right in waiting.

359 - QKs seemed like an incredible hand at this point and once again being new I rly didnt know what to make of his minraise. Throughout the tourney most of the minraises have not been monsters so I decided to take a shot here and stick it in. Looking back I think I should have waited as I rly didnt have much fold equity, if any at all.


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Posted 31 December 2007 - 03:46 AM

QUOTE (sennin @ Monday, December 31st, 2007, 1:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://www.pokerxfactor.com/HH105532/19316_20071231_031022

Here's the hands I have questions on:

68 - Missed a bet here on the river. He was instacalling me and I really had no idea what he had. It was unlikely he had a K so when the flush got there I just decided to slow down. Afterwards I figured I should have bet 1/3-1/2 the pot and fold to a raise.

97 - I call a raise since we're both deep enough and flop a straight draw. I honestly have no idea how to play it OOP though and just decide to fold.

158 - I decide to fold as it doesnt look like I have enough odds to try and hit my set. The 6 obv comes, just wondering if I should have flicked in the call.

168 - Im thinking I shoulda just folded even to his minraise, im oop and it will cost too much to find out where I stand. No real reads on what his minraise meant, he had done alot of open minraising(and folding when he got popped) but this was the first time I saw him minreraise.

175 - Should I even bet this flop? Obviously I should have shut down on the turn but I decided to be a moron instead.

191 - Decided to shove here because I was out of position and assumed the shortstack was going to come along. Pretty sure I played this terribly lol. Should I have made it like 15k pre?

220 - Bet the flop? Or is checking down fine?

225 - Once again I flop a straight draw but im OOP. Really not sure how to play this. I considered shoving and probably would have if there wasnt 2 clubs on the flop.

234 - Hate playing against shortstacks like this. Should I just shove pre and hope to win the 60/40? Or should I shove the flop when I hit, and fold when i dont.

240 - Standard? I put him on 77ish and contemplated a value bet on the river but decided to play it safe.

338 - His minraise really wasnt anything to be afraid of at this point and I decided to pull a stop and go. I flop the set though and change my plans. If I didnt hit would shoving have been correct? Or should I just stick it in pre and pray?

340 - I think I should have called here. He was new to the table so I didnt have any reads on him except that his OPR for all time is positive. Considering hes a decent player his range is probably a little wider than I originally thought.

353 - I was new to this table, no idea what the 4x raise UTG meant. Is AJs good enough here? Or was I right in waiting.

359 - QKs seemed like an incredible hand at this point and once again being new I rly didnt know what to make of his minraise. Throughout the tourney most of the minraises have not been monsters so I decided to take a shot here and stick it in. Looking back I think I should have waited as I rly didnt have much fold equity, if any at all.
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68-That river bet basically confirms he didn't have the flush (unless he is GODAWFUL at poker)...you probably coulda gotten a value raise in.

97-You are getting 2.5-1 to call. at BEST you have 8 clean outs, that would be if you could put him on AK. KQ is a possibility too...taking out one of your outs. From your spot...I probably play it the same

158-They didn't have enough behind them to make it worthwhile to call

168-Its almost certain that if he is reraising, your A8 is beat. Being that you hit the flop, its hard to gauge where you stand. You bet and he called, I think its safe to say he had you there. I really don't mind the c/f after he called the flop.

175-OBV you shouldn't have continued on the turn, but my big thing was not betting enough on the flop, bet 3/4 to pot and reevaluate from there. Alot of people will float light because you priced them in.

191-Its not necessarily a bad play. 15k would have worked about the same, I gather. It all depends on if you really want to see a flop with Smoke.

220-Man, if you are going to raise preflop, and the blind calls then checks flop with 2 high cards like that...fire away! If you bet 3/4 pot on the flop, he can only call you if he has K or strong draw...MAYBE float a J. Gotta show aggression.

225-It's possible to call that, you had deep enough stack to call. It is almost certain he had a jack there. If you had a good enough read, you could represent a flush draw if you wanted to. He doesn't know if you are calling with SD or FD. It's a good assumption he didn't have a FD,

234-I'm not even calling the flop bet. He has obv caught SOME piece of the flop. All you beat is a SD and FD...and even then, they undoubtedly have overs on you.

240-Eh...standard. Any value bet would have been called. Not really worth a stab. Checking the turn basically meant surrendering.

338-You are either shoving pre...or folding. NOT a good idea to just call and push any flop. You are letting him see too much. Put him to the decision right away.

340-That is borderline all around. Folding still leaves you with maneuvering room at 15 blinds. Its a horse a piece IMO.

353-I fold that too. AJ is hardly ever winning there. If you are lucky he has TT-22.

359- You DID have fold equity. It was slightly over the pot. That is a push IMO.
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 07:52 AM

68 - Played it fine imo, though i think you should've bet bigger on the turn. In the range of 1500-1600.

97 - You're not getting the right odds here so it's a fine fold. I've got the feeling he'd bet the turn very big. Betting 1800 there into a 3-way pot on such a board probably means he has something.

158 - Fine fold. I'd have played it the same.

168 - Easy way to find out where you're at. Just bet the turn. 14-15k seems good. I'd personally say he has a KK/QQ here and is now betting the turn, because he thinks he can steal it from you since the flush hit. His turn bet also seems a little weak. I'd at least have called, maybe put him allin, but best thing would've been to just bet the turn.
Also i think i'd have checked this flop. I think that'd give you more information than betting out yourself. If he calls you really don't know much about where you stand. If he bets out and will then bet the turn again after you called the flop, i think we can be pretty sure he has an ace, most likely a better one.

175 - C-bet on the flop is pretty standard. Don't bet the turn though. That is the worst card that could've come. It makes both a straight and a flush very likely. Just check the turn behind. He's gotta have you beat here.

191 - I'd make it 16-18k.

220 - I'd have bet 5-6k(c-bet) on the flop and if called i'd be done with the hand.

225 - I fold preflop. On the flop you're being offered the right odds so i think a call's fine, but with somebody left to act behind you i might've just folded.

234 - I'd have folded to his flop bet, but a call's not terrible. Turn fold's fine.

240 - You played it fine, i might've bet the turn if the flush hadn't hit, but that'd have been read dependant. With the 3rd club out there though checking the rest down was fine.

338 - Fold preflop. Not a good hand to go allin with preflop. Him raising in EP with A7s is retarded, you might've been able to get him off that, but a sane person would've had a decent hand raising in EP and 55 is not a good hand to gamble with preflop.
Even worse is calling and hoping for a set. You've got less than 10x BB. Set farming is not an option at this point. Fold and wait for a better hand to double up with.

340 - Good fold.

353 - Fold due to the gap concept.

359 - Not a terrible thing to do. He could've had a very wide range. Just ul he had AA in that spot. Not too much you could've done being so shortstacked.
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