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[compsolv]

Well – this is one that I seem to see a lot and was wondering what you guys thought…You are playing 10/20 six handed and you are first to act with two big cards – lets say AQo. You raise and everyone folds except the BB that calls. The flop comes rags and the BB leads out. It always seems from a pot odds perspective the correct play would be a fold…but do we lessen the importance of pot odds here and look at this differently as we are short handed? Thanks!

[compsolv]

OK - sorry - just read the guidelines on posts and realize now why this is being ignored. Let's try it this way - shorthanded 10/20, you have AQo UTG + 2 - it folds to you and you raise, only the BB calls. You are playing at 24%/16% and the BB is 48%/12%. The flop comes 239 raindbow and the BB leads out. Your typical plays and why?Thanks!!!!

[jmkiser]

Good question and crappy situation. I fold to loose passive fish who never bets and are actually betting this flop. Loose aggressives I'll call the flop once. We're obviously looking much better and can play accordingly if we hit our A or Q. I, mainly, want to see if they bet again. If they do, I'll re-evaluate then on who they are and what I know about them to get their range of hands. Truth be told, though, I've been pushing myself lately to not get money in weak anyway. We can definitely take our weakness into factor as a reason for folding a blank turn. They could be double barreling, but we're weak and we need WAY more information to keep going then the fact that they're loose aggressive. (to the experts, is the above bad reasoning? does my reasoning of A high weakness on the turn mean that we should go ahead and fold on the flop? is the play correct and i just need a better explanation as to why?)If they slow down and check the turn, I, personally, take control of the hand. I guess that turns into a re-question for the next person who looks at this thread. If a player slows down, I tend to attack the weakness and bluff the turn when scare cards come to top pair and draws. I am leaning towards asking if this is wise or just too much aggression, but I feel I know the answer. Something along the lines of "what is your opponent's aggression factor turn and river? go for it if they show down a low percentage of hands that they play and are passive" ?

[Zach6668]

This spot is really really read dependant. I'll raise vs some people, fold vs others, peel vs most.PS - I don't think anyone was ignoring your post, it's just that these LHE forums aren't as active as they've been in the past, unfortunately.

[Sheiky]

If it was 3-4 handed i'd generaly raise because i play like a maniac donkey when it gets down to 3-4 players.6-handed, it's where you're perceptiveness of the player and the table really comes into play, there's no correct play.Against a loose passive predictable player you can safely fold. Against a more aggressive/donkish player you could raise more and lead the turn, though i'm not sure what people's opinions of that are because it seems pretty spewish when you get called down light. I don't really like calling that much because you rarely get the immediate odds and you won't get as much action when the Ace hits the turn and the BB doesn't have it.

[navybuttons]

compsolv, on Wednesday, December 19th, 2007, 2:44 PM, said:

It always seems from a pot odds perspective the correct play would be a fold

incorrect.

[Mattnxtc]

Against most villains this is not a fold.