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#1 Buckeye Hughes

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Posted 02 December 2007 - 05:10 PM

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This thread is in no way meant to offend or downgrade the University of Michigan. This is meant for some serious discussion.

Okay, now that's out of the way, how bad of shape is a program in when a coach, who played at a college, was an assistant at said college, had an escape clause in his contract for that college, and called it his "dream job", turns down the opportunity to coach the team?
Long winded question? Yes. But how bad are things in Ann Arbor when Les Miles turns you down?

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Posted 02 December 2007 - 05:16 PM

I'm not that worried.

Les Miles was more interested in money than Michigan, he used the threat of going to Michigan to get a ton more $$ out of LSU.

Next year will be tough, but we will have a good coach, and the future looks fine for Michigan.
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Posted 02 December 2007 - 05:34 PM

QUOTE (Buckeye Hughes @ Sunday, December 2nd, 2007, 5:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
****DISCLAIMER****
This thread is in no way meant to offend or downgrade the University of Michigan. This is meant for some serious discussion.

Okay, now that's out of the way, how bad of shape is a program in when a coach, who played at a college, was an assistant at said college, had an escape clause in his contract for that college, and called it his "dream job", turns down the opportunity to coach the team?
Long winded question? Yes. But how bad are things in Ann Arbor when Les Miles turns you down?

Discuss




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Posted 02 December 2007 - 06:28 PM

I wish my Iowa Hawkeyes were in as terrible shape as Michigan has been the last decade.
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Posted 15 December 2007 - 07:57 AM

I opened this thread thinking it was about U of Miami. I mean really Michigan had a tough year but they were not that bad and as has been pointed out the last 10 years has been pretty good.

Now Miami....they won 33 straight games earlier this decade. Now they are a below .500 team in the ACC. What the **** happened?? Hoenstly, I love the Canes and I follow them and I have no idea how it all went to hell so fast.
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Posted 16 December 2007 - 07:12 PM

Rich Rodriguez is now the Wolverine coach. I'm not sure how I feel about that.

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 07:15 PM

QUOTE (Jadaki @ Sunday, December 16th, 2007, 7:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rich Rodriguez is now the Wolverine coach. I'm not sure how I feel about that.


Where do you think Ryan Mallet will transfer too?

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 07:23 PM

QUOTE (DrawingDeadInDM @ Sunday, December 2nd, 2007, 8:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wish my Iowa Hawkeyes were in as terrible shape as Michigan has been the last decade.



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Posted 16 December 2007 - 08:13 PM

QUOTE (Shia LaBeouf @ Sunday, December 16th, 2007, 9:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Where do you think Ryan Mallet will transfer too?


Don't know, don't care. Honestly I'm not impressed with Mallet at all, sure he is 6-7, strong... but he is slow and doesn't have a quick release. Rodriguez has been recruiting the number 1 player in the country who immediately said "Add Michigan to my list" when the Rodriguez news slipped.

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 08:21 PM

QUOTE (Jadaki @ Sunday, December 16th, 2007, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't know, don't care. Honestly I'm not impressed with Mallet at all, sure he is 6-7, strong... but he is slow and doesn't have a quick release. Rodriguez has been recruiting the number 1 player in the country who immediately said "Add Michigan to my list" when the Rodriguez news slipped.

sorry to burst your bubble but if he has any sense at all he is going to OSU.

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 08:25 PM

QUOTE (fitzinabox @ Sunday, December 16th, 2007, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
sorry to burst your bubble but if he has any sense at all he is going to OSU.


Florida
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Ohio State
Oregon
Penn State
Pittsburgh

Are the schools he is considering, of those if he wants a open offense then Florida, Oregon, and Michigan are going to rank ahead of OSU for that style of play (assuming as has been reported that Rodriguez will implement that offense at Michigan) and I think with Tebow saying he is staying two more years then its going to be one of the other two if he wants to play sooner rather than later.

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 10:03 PM

QUOTE (Jadaki @ Sunday, December 16th, 2007, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Florida
Michigan
Ohio State
Oregon
Penn State
Pittsburgh

Are the schools he is considering, of those if he wants a open offense then Florida, Oregon, and Michigan are going to rank ahead of OSU for that style of play (assuming as has been reported that Rodriguez will implement that offense at Michigan) and I think with Tebow saying he is staying two more years then its going to be one of the other two if he wants to play sooner rather than later.

i bet u 10$ he chooses OSU over UM, if he chose neither its a push.

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 06:18 AM

QUOTE (fitzinabox @ Monday, December 17th, 2007, 12:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i bet u 10$ he chooses OSU over UM, if he chose neither its a push.


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Posted 17 December 2007 - 07:06 AM

Rich Rodriguez is our new coach.

I'd say we're doin all right.

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 07:11 AM

QUOTE (Jadaki @ Sunday, December 16th, 2007, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't know, don't care. Honestly I'm not impressed with Mallet at all, sure he is 6-7, strong... but he is slow and doesn't have a quick release. Rodriguez has been recruiting the number 1 player in the country who immediately said "Add Michigan to my list" when the Rodriguez news slipped.

I watched him play in the HS state championships on Saturday, and many other times. He's sick...especially against the 5-7 150 lb white guys that try and tackle him.

QUOTE (fitzinabox @ Sunday, December 16th, 2007, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
sorry to burst your bubble but if he has any sense at all he is going to OSU.

It has been said that OSU is the front runner, but he made some comments about how OSU doesn't run an offense that he is suited in. Florida and the recently added Oregon do.

A major factor in his choice is also basketball, which he's a top 25 recruit. He's stated that he'll only go where he can play both.


btw, Pittsburgh is not on his list.

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 07:20 AM

QUOTE (fryer98 @ Monday, December 17th, 2007, 9:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A major factor in his choice is also basketball, which he's a top 25 recruit. He's stated that he'll only go where he can play both.


That's interesting.

Of the schools on his list Florida has been the best recently at both sports. OSU's basketball has been up and down based on which of their players stay, Michigan basketball has been down for pretty much the last decade, the Pac-10 is really deep in basketball this year and probably will be for the next few at least. It's rare for a east coast recruit to go out that far west where they get less exposure nationally though, exception generally being USC so I'd give slightly less credit to Oregon.

Pitt was on his list according to Rivals, but that info changes so often it could very well be wrong.

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 07:30 AM

QUOTE (Jadaki @ Monday, December 17th, 2007, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's interesting.

Of the schools on his list Florida has been the best recently at both sports. OSU's basketball has been up and down based on which of their players stay, Michigan basketball has been down for pretty much the last decade, the Pac-10 is really deep in basketball this year and probably will be for the next few at least. It's rare for a east coast recruit to go out that far west where they get less exposure nationally though, exception generally being USC so I'd give slightly less credit to Oregon.

Pitt was on his list according to Rivals, but that info changes so often it could very well be wrong.

He recently added Oregon, due to their offense. He hasn't made a trup there yet, but is planning one soon. I would think he'll only go there if they really blow him away on his trip.

He took WV off and added UM yesterday and stated his 5 are "Florida, Michigan, Ohio State, Oregon, Penn State." I can't see PSU being up there, with their basketball program, but it's close to home so I'm sure that's where his mom wants him to go.

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 07:40 AM

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He finished with 4,250 career yards rushing and 4,249 yards passing.


That's pretty much the definition of balance.

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 08:08 AM

QUOTE (Jadaki @ Sunday, December 16th, 2007, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Florida
Michigan
Ohio State
Oregon
Penn State
Pittsburgh

Are the schools he is considering, of those if he wants a open offense then Florida, Oregon, and Michigan are going to rank ahead of OSU for that style of play (assuming as has been reported that Rodriguez will implement that offense at Michigan) and I think with Tebow saying he is staying two more years then its going to be one of the other two if he wants to play sooner rather than later.



QUOTE (fryer98 @ Monday, December 17th, 2007, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I watched him play in the HS state championships on Saturday, and many other times. He's sick...especially against the 5-7 150 lb white guys that try and tackle him.
It has been said that OSU is the front runner, but he made some comments about how OSU doesn't run an offense that he is suited in. Florida and the recently added Oregon do.

A major factor in his choice is also basketball, which he's a top 25 recruit. He's stated that he'll only go where he can play both.
btw, Pittsburgh is not on his list.

I think Tressel has shown he is willing to adapt the offense to the talent he has. With the exception of Troy Smith, he really hasn't had a great QB that was primarily a thrower. With this type of QB and talented WR's I think he will open the offense up. He has shown a willingness to open up the offense in recent years with players like Smith, Ginn, and Gonzalez. I think the plan was to do this with Justin Zwick when he got to Columbus as a hyped phenom. When he turned out to be a bust, Tressel had to revert back to the traditional ground and pound Big Ten game. With an average QB like Boeckman, he has to rely on the running game more.
As far as the Rodriguez hiring, it seems like a good move. His offensive style should force the other Big Ten schools to open up. WVU might be a little pissed as Michigan has lured away their basketball and football coaches away in consecutive years. I think with Slaton most likely headed to the NFL, he may have realized there was no better time to move on.
If this HS kid gets the pitch from Tressel AND Thad Matta, I say it would be a virtual lock for OSU. Both are phenomenal recruiters.
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Posted 17 December 2007 - 08:46 AM

QUOTE (Buckeye Hughes @ Monday, December 17th, 2007, 11:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If this HS kid gets the pitch from Tressel AND Thad Matta, I say it would be a virtual lock for OSU. Both are phenomenal recruiters.

And you don't think he has already?




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