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#1 serge

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 02:51 PM

Apparently Brian Burke is behind this and if it is accepted it will definetely help the Leafs situation...


http://www.thestar.com/article/280605
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Posted 28 November 2007 - 02:55 PM

QUOTE (serge @ Wednesday, November 28th, 2007, 2:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Apparently Brian Burke is behind this and if it is accepted it will definetely help the Leafs situation...
http://www.thestar.com/article/280605

The NHLPA will never go for this....
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Posted 28 November 2007 - 03:02 PM

Well I figured it would suck for the players, but who knew they would go for the salary cap..

The way the current system is gms have very a difficult time making trades. As a fan its exciting when you get those major trades you can discuss and argue about..We never get those anymore. Obviously as a Leafs fan this is something that is intriguing as a team with lots of money can afford to make more moves..

We will see what happens...
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Posted 28 November 2007 - 03:41 PM

QUOTE (serge @ Wednesday, November 28th, 2007, 3:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I figured it would suck for the players, but who knew they would go for the salary cap..

The way the current system is gms have very a difficult time making trades. As a fan its exciting when you get those major trades you can discuss and argue about..We never get those anymore. Obviously as a Leafs fan this is something that is intriguing as a team with lots of money can afford to make more moves..

We will see what happens...


You're kidding right?



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Posted 28 November 2007 - 03:43 PM

QUOTE (gruven @ Wednesday, November 28th, 2007, 2:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The NHLPA will never go for this....


Why? Freeing up money for big spending teams like the Leafs and Rangers would ensure that more big insane contracts would be signed.

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 03:47 PM

QUOTE (TheDaveyG @ Wednesday, November 28th, 2007, 3:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're kidding right?


When is the last time there was a major "hockey" trade made??Meaning stars switched teams and it wasnt a salary dump from one of the teams involved..

Movement is a lot more difficult within the salary cap, and GMs are having tough time making trades..
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Posted 28 November 2007 - 05:09 PM

Obviously GMs watch the AHL / FCHL and realize what geniuses we are in our rules.

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 05:41 PM

QUOTE (serge @ Wednesday, November 28th, 2007, 3:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When is the last time there was a major "hockey" trade made??Meaning stars switched teams and it wasnt a salary dump from one of the teams involved..

Movement is a lot more difficult within the salary cap, and GMs are having tough time making trades..



Salary is one of the biggest reasons for making a trade. What other reasons are there?



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Posted 28 November 2007 - 07:58 PM

QUOTE (Rmunro @ Wednesday, November 28th, 2007, 3:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why? Freeing up money for big spending teams like the Leafs and Rangers would ensure that more big insane contracts would be signed.

It doesnt free up any money. The cap is still the cap. It just allows teams to trade cap space, which is detrimental to player contracts.
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Posted 28 November 2007 - 08:00 PM

I also heard today that they are reviewing the numbers and its very likely the cap will be higher next year...
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Posted 28 November 2007 - 08:02 PM

QUOTE (serge @ Wednesday, November 28th, 2007, 8:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I also heard today that they are reviewing the numbers and its very likely the cap will be higher next year...

Dont get your hopes up next years UFA list is pretty pathetic. Most of the impact RFA have been locked up early aswell. Maybe the Leafs can give 6mill 5 year deal to Kolzig though.

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 08:06 PM

seriously all you guys are getting old with your bashing...You dont have to bash the Leafs on every topic on every post I make..

Especially when I am contributing to the thread in a legitimate way...

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 08:09 PM

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Dont get your hopes up next years UFA list is pretty pathetic. Most of the impact RFA have been locked up early aswell. Maybe the Leafs can give 6mill 5 year deal to Kolzig though.


Looks to me like there may be some decent talent available.

http://www.nhlnumbers.com/freeagents.php?t...a&type=none

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 08:16 PM

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Looks to me like there may be some decent talent available.

http://www.nhlnumbers.com/freeagents.php?t...a&type=none

Hossa is really the only one who stands out as a major impact player to me. Demitra is solid but getting up there.

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 08:18 PM

QUOTE (serge @ Wednesday, November 28th, 2007, 8:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
seriously all you guys are getting old with your bashing...You dont have to bash the Leafs on every topic on every post I make..

Especially when I am contributing to the thread in a legitimate way...

Thanks

Sorry I am still bitter for missing the first half of the 1st period of the Van/Anh game last night because some retard doesnt know how to work a zamboni!

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 08:21 PM

that was pretty hilarious...I am pretty sure he got fired today....
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Posted 28 November 2007 - 08:24 PM

QUOTE (grocery_mony @ Wednesday, November 28th, 2007, 11:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hossa is really the only one who stands out as a major impact player to me. Demitra is solid but getting up there.


Hossa, JP Dumont, Langkow, Comrie, etc..

While there isn't a ton of big names there still a ton of quality to be mined in there as well in the 1-2 mill range.

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 08:28 PM

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Sorry I am still bitter for missing the first half of the 1st period of the Van/Anh game last night because some retard doesnt know how to work a zamboni!


After a quick look, I like...

Marian Hossa
Brian Campbell
Cory Stillman
Kristian Huselius
Daymond Langkow
Ron Hainsey
Joe Sakic
Mike Ribeiro
John-Michael Liles
Nicklas Lidstrom
Michael Ryder
J.P. Dumont
David Legwand
Mike Comrie
Miroslav Satan
Sean Avery
Martin Straka
Brendan Shanahan
Wade Redden
Dan Boyle
Vaclav Prospal
Mats Sundin
Brendan Morrison
Markus Naslund

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 08:28 PM

There is also big names that wont receive the contracts they are currently signed for..

ie Theodore,Demitra,Blake(might retire),Lidstrom,Sakic(maybe he will)

While these guys are all old Sakic and Lidstrom are still at the top of their game adn for the right price they can have value...

The real goldmine of great young talent is in the RFAs
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Posted 28 November 2007 - 08:44 PM

QUOTE (gruven @ Wednesday, November 28th, 2007, 7:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It doesnt free up any money. The cap is still the cap. It just allows teams to trade cap space, which is detrimental to player contracts.


But some teams don't spend to the top of the cap because they are cheap. As an example If Toronto trades Kubina and his salary to the Predators, then spend that 5 million on other free agents, 5 million more dollars just went into player salaries. Nashville would not have spent that money unless Toronto sent it to them. They would have just gone through the season with unused cap space.




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