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#1 CrookedLink

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Posted 27 November 2007 - 12:16 PM

Full Tilt (2 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7 icon_suit_spade.gif , 3 icon_suit_diamond.gif . Hero posts a blind of 10.
Hero (poster) calls, BB checks.

Flop: 3 icon_suit_heart.gif , A icon_suit_spade.gif , 3 icon_suit_club.gif (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: A icon_suit_heart.gif (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

River: 4 icon_suit_spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets 1470 (All-In),

Hero?
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Posted 27 November 2007 - 01:10 PM

I have no idea.

I don't lay this down, but HU is a weak point of mine (I used to think of it as a strong point. I was wrong)

I don't think this is a laydown because it could very well be a pp or a 4. His PF Flat call leads me to think he doesn't have an ace a good portion of the time.
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Posted 27 November 2007 - 02:00 PM

Converter messed up.

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 09:54 AM

Converter messed up but it doesn't really matter on the river...Easy fold, hes almost never making this bet w/ a busted draw (there really weren't any draws) or air..Its an Ace most of the time that caught up on the turn, and even if its a suicidal 3, its for half the pot..Fold
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Posted 28 November 2007 - 01:05 PM

I've found overbet river shoves/bets to be generally a sign of extreme strength, not weakness. If you have evidence to believe otherwise, you can call, otherwise I fold here. The line usually is, if he was going to bluff, wouldn't he bluff less? That's usually the case. And unless he's using some ridiculous meta-game on your azz here, I see him having the A and you making a relatively easy fold with a lot of chips left to actually play.

It's weird I know, but what's going through his mind with the A is this. "If he can call the turn, he must have a 3 or an A, so I'm going to shove with my A" And if he has A-4...he's thinking he can get called by a naked ace and win with the nuts.

Unfortunately, his logic is backwards....because if you have an A, you are going to raise his river bet anyway...and if you have a 3, you are going to flat. So the optimal bet for him is actually about a pot sized bet, which you'd call with a 3 and raise with an ace.

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 05:48 PM

I stand corrected. Thanks for the thought process run through.
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