CrookedLink 0 Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 Full Tilt (2 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)Preflop: Hero is Button with 7 , 3 . Hero posts a blind of 10. Hero (poster) calls, BB checks.Flop: 3 , A , 3 (2 players)BB bets, Hero calls.Turn: A (2 players)BB bets, Hero calls.River: 4 (2 players)BB bets 1470 (All-In), Hero? Link to post Share on other sites
Wingman008 0 Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 I have no idea.I don't lay this down, but HU is a weak point of mine (I used to think of it as a strong point. I was wrong)I don't think this is a laydown because it could very well be a pp or a 4. His PF Flat call leads me to think he doesn't have an ace a good portion of the time. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 Converter messed up. Link to post Share on other sites
throwemaway 0 Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Converter messed up but it doesn't really matter on the river...Easy fold, hes almost never making this bet w/ a busted draw (there really weren't any draws) or air..Its an Ace most of the time that caught up on the turn, and even if its a suicidal 3, its for half the pot..Fold Link to post Share on other sites
ObeyTheDog 0 Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 I've found overbet river shoves/bets to be generally a sign of extreme strength, not weakness. If you have evidence to believe otherwise, you can call, otherwise I fold here. The line usually is, if he was going to bluff, wouldn't he bluff less? That's usually the case. And unless he's using some ridiculous meta-game on your azz here, I see him having the A and you making a relatively easy fold with a lot of chips left to actually play.It's weird I know, but what's going through his mind with the A is this. "If he can call the turn, he must have a 3 or an A, so I'm going to shove with my A" And if he has A-4...he's thinking he can get called by a naked ace and win with the nuts.Unfortunately, his logic is backwards....because if you have an A, you are going to raise his river bet anyway...and if you have a 3, you are going to flat. So the optimal bet for him is actually about a pot sized bet, which you'd call with a 3 and raise with an ace. Link to post Share on other sites
Wingman008 0 Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 I stand corrected. Thanks for the thought process run through. Link to post Share on other sites
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