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[LJB723]

Game #6431421434: Holdem NL £3 (ID5959533) £3+£0.60 - Hold'em NL (15/30) - 2007/11/26 - 15:36:35 (UK)
Table "5959533 - 1" Seat 9 is the button.
Seat 2: Villain, BB (1157 in chips)
Seat 3: UTG (753 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero, UTG+1 (1067 in chips)
Seat 6: MP1 (2342 in chips)
Seat 7: MP2 (370 in chips)
Seat 8: CO (318 in chips)
Seat 9: Button (325 in chips)
Seat 10: SB (3668 in chips)
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Hero [Kc Jc]
UTG: folds
Hero: calls 30
3 Folds
Button: calls 30
SB: calls 15
Villain: checks
----- FLOP ----- [3s Qc Ac]
SB: checks
Villain: bets 60
Hero: raises to 150
Button: folds
SB: folds
Villain: calls 90
----- TURN ----- [3s Qc Ac][Kh]
Villain: Checks
Hero: ??

Should I just take the river for free, or continue to build the pot if I make my hand on the river?
Also if the river is a blank and villain checks again am I firing? And folding to a bet?

Thanks

[Metternich]

check behind makes your hand look more like a naked FD, I bet.

[simo_8ball]

I don't really like any decision you've made so far.

Don't open limp preflop. Raise or fold.

Your flop raise is confusing and is pretty much 100% a value bluff. You have no idea if you're enticing value from a worse draw, whether you're bluffing KQ off the hand, etc.

I guess you bought yourself a free river card, but I still don't really like it too much.

[gobears]

I probably check behind on the flop - once you limp pre, it's going to be tough to convince villain that you have an ace in your hand.

You pick up some more potential outs on the turn and might have taken the lead with your paired king - I just call down here unless I hit the FD or straight obviously.

[roadie1385]

i agree with saying that limping was a bad move.. i guess if you see a cheap flop it's all right, but most of the time you're not gonna be a huge favorite against any hand.. on the turn, you should fire at it.. you're most likely ahead, if not drawing to the best hand.. if you check and miss and the villian fires, what do you do then? checking would only lose the hand if you miss the river.. if you bet the turn and miss the river, you can still take down the pot on the river with a bet or you might even have the best hand..

[jmbreslin]

I'm with simo. I throw away hands like KJs in poor position early in SnGs because it's a high risk/low reward hand. I'll raise with it later in the tourney.

I don't understand the flop raise at all. It seems unnecessarily aggressive for the early stages of a SnG.

[LJB723]

Mixed reaction, although more on the hand = butchered side lol.

I did bet the turn, 300 into 405 and villain called.

River was just what I expected it to be - a f***in' blank, 5s.

Villain checked again, I'm now pretty sure he has some rag A and isn't going to lay it down so meekly checked behind, despite all my flop and turn bravado.

Is that the right move?

[simo_8ball]

Yes. He's not folding a better hand, and you're not getting called by a worse hand. Checking behind on the river is standard. Just hope he had a busted draw of some sort or maybe a queen.