nl question

[NortonFan 0]

The table is super loose agressive betting $3 on every other hand while the bb is .25 and 4 or 5 people call....Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (7 handed) converterBB ($10)UTG ($83.49)MP1 ($32.1)Hero ($24.4)CO ($35.2)Button ($32.25)SB ($9.75)Preflop: Hero is MP2 with [7d], [7h]. SB posts a blind of $0.1. UTG raises to $1, SB (poster) calls $2.90, BB calls $2.75, UTG calls $2.Flop: ($12) [2h], [5h], [9h] (4 players)BB folds, UTG folds, Hero ???

[allinbluff35 0]

converter messed up, what was the bet on the flop that you were faced with?

[NortonFan 0]

he went all in for another 6.25

[Absolute 0]

fold pre-flop.

[allinbluff35 0]

fold pre-flop.

call the raise don't rereaise PF with 7's, and I fold to the SB's allin unless curiosity gets the best of me.

[Absolute 0]

fold pre-flop.

call the raise don't rereaise PF with 7's, and I fold to the SB's allin unless curiosity gets the best of me.

id want another caller or twoi could see arguing and folding the flop UI

[Absolute 0]

you are right, i think you are better at NL than i amdo you fold UI though?

[allinbluff35 0]

fold pre-flop.

call the raise don't rereaise PF with 7's, and I fold to the SB's allin unless curiosity gets the best of me.

id want another caller or twoi could see arguing and folding the flop UI

i'm calling any PP heads up or multiway if the raise is 5% of my stack or less, deep stack NL absolute the implied odds are there for the PF call. The flop really is a gut instinct I think because I can think of arguements both for or against folding with this board.

[Absolute 0]

so hes getting 3 to 1 to call that flop...hmmmm*wonders how often it is a LAG playing A2, A5, on a non scary flop. probably not often.*its not a set though...

[Absolute 0]

i dont think a call is in linei certainly still dont like the PF raise

[allinbluff35 0]

so hes getting 3 to 1 to call that flop...hmmmm*wonders how often it is a LAG playing A2, A5, on a non scary flop. probably not often.*its not a set though...

if the SB does have a set he doesn't have a clue at all because I'd want callers in case I was already behind with the flush on OTB. the SB could be pushing with a missed AK with the A or K of hearts which it's not looking to good, or he could be pushing with almost anything to try and take the pot down without a showdown, i think curiosity has me now and I'd if it was me i'd call

[allinbluff35 0]

the reraise is fucking horrible to be brutally honest, I *MIGHT* do that to isolate but that is a strong might if you ask me.

[Absolute 0]

the reraise is fucking horrible to be brutally honest, I *MIGHT* do that to isolate but that is a strong might if you ask me.

id want more information than id have in MP

[allinbluff35 0]

the reraise is fucking horrible to be brutally honest, I *MIGHT* do that to isolate but that is a strong might if you ask me.

id want more information than id have in MP

i'd want a 50xbuyin BR if I was playing that aggressive

[Absolute 0]

you are pretty aggressivepost a hand

[allinbluff35 0]

you are pretty aggressivepost a hand

i'll take a look and see if I can find anything that is interesting

[JFarrell20 1]

If everyone is betting $3 pre-flop, why do you raise to $3 with 77?Pointless.Limp and let someone raise then re-raise pre-flop.Simply steal $3 here (or more).I don't understand people who discern the fact that others are loose, yet, when they get a raise-worthy hand, they raise?Let the idiots bet if for you! Otherwise, what good is this information?

[allinbluff35 0]

If everyone is betting $3 pre-flop, why do you raise to $3 with 77? Pointless. now you're understanding somethingLimp and let someone raise then re-raise pre-flop. Simply steal $3 here (or more). n/m, what do you hope they are raising with every hand 45 sooted?I don't understand people who discern the fact that others are loose, yet, when they get a raise-worthy hand, they raise? 7's aren't *usually* "raise worthy" hands let alone reraising hands unless you are attempting to isolate the original raiser and you have position on the table.Let the idiots bet if for you! Otherwise, what good is this information?the OP didn't give enough information to us about what types of hands the LAG's had been showing down. They could just be the players that play loose PF but are very good post flop

[Absolute 0]

If everyone is betting $3 pre-flop, why do you raise to $3 with 77?Pointless.Limp and let someone raise then re-raise pre-flop.Simply steal $3 here (or more).I don't understand people who discern the fact that others are loose, yet, when they get a raise-worthy hand, they raise?Let the idiots bet if for you! Otherwise, what good is this information?

bad adviceraising here in this position is no good

[NortonFan 0]

Yea I had a rock type image at the table so i thought if i raised it i might get 1 or possibly 2 callers but that didnt work. But yea everyone folded to me and I also got curious so I called and he had Ax ace of hearts and no ace or heart came so I won.

[Swift_Psycho 1]

Yea I had a rock type image at the table so i thought if i raised it i might get 1 or possibly 2 callers but that didnt work. But yea everyone folded to me and I also got curious so I called and he had Ax ace of hearts and no ace or heart came so I won.

Re-raising with sevens pre-flop is still an incredibly ballsy and often stupid play though. Nice hand nonetheless.

[JFarrell20 1]

Yea I had a rock type image at the table so i thought if i raised it i might get 1 or possibly 2 callers but that didnt work.   But yea everyone folded to me and I also got curious so I called and he had Ax ace of hearts and no ace or heart came so I won.

Re-raising with sevens pre-flop is still an incredibly ballsy and often stupid play though. Nice hand nonetheless.

how so at a 6-handed table when "people hav ebeen raising often pre-flop"??Have you played poker? 77 against 5 opponents is a monster. Steal their raise. If they move over you you can get away from it if you want to.

[KDawgCometh 2]

Yea I had a rock type image at the table so i thought if i raised it i might get 1 or possibly 2 callers but that didnt work.   But yea everyone folded to me and I also got curious so I called and he had Ax ace of hearts and no ace or heart came so I won.

Re-raising with sevens pre-flop is still an incredibly ballsy and often stupid play though. Nice hand nonetheless.

how so at a 6-handed table when "people hav ebeen raising often pre-flop"??Have you played poker? 77 against 5 opponents is a monster. Steal their raise. If they move over you you can get away from it if you want to.

wouldn't exactly call it that, but yes you're right. In a shorthanded game a mid PP can be very nice to have. Here's the problem though. Hero has $24 and is raising to $3. Hero is committing 1/8 of their stack to this hand which can play very poorly postflop if paintovers come. I'd be much more okay with this raise if the Hero was only committing 1/10 to 1/15 of their stack on this PF.

[JFarrell20 1]

Yea I had a rock type image at the table so i thought if i raised it i might get 1 or possibly 2 callers but that didnt work.   But yea everyone folded to me and I also got curious so I called and he had Ax ace of hearts and no ace or heart came so I won.

Re-raising with sevens pre-flop is still an incredibly ballsy and often stupid play though. Nice hand nonetheless.

how so at a 6-handed table when "people hav ebeen raising often pre-flop"??Have you played poker? 77 against 5 opponents is a monster. Steal their raise. If they move over you you can get away from it if you want to.

wouldn't exactly call it that, but yes you're right. In a shorthanded game a mid PP can be very nice to have. Here's the problem though. Hero has $24 and is raising to $3. Hero is committing 1/8 of their stack to this hand which can play very poorly postflop if paintovers come. I'd be much more okay with this raise if the Hero was only committing 1/10 to 1/15 of their stack on this PF.

holy s.hit swift... you better listen to this, dude. KDawg agrees with me on something. Seriously, I'm going to mark my calendar.You can limp and if everyone else limps I'd probably check to try to fill out trips. If someone raises though, and it's back to you with 2 callers or less, I'd re-raise with the goal of stealing it before the flop. Chances are 77 is the best hand here, but you certainly don't want to let 2, or even 1 player see a flop. My main point was...if you've gathered the information which told you that people are raising loosely pre-flop...DONT raise pre-flop. Let them do it, then punish them. Why would you want to let the table know you're strong (if you haven't partaken in much pre-flop raising of course)? Besides, you aren't very strong here. If you raise in EP to $3, (and several people have paid $3 to see the flop lately) chances are you're going to let several people see this flop which is what you don't want.Alright I need to stop rambling. I need to work on making my points more succinct. Just remember, gathering information is half the battle. Knowing how to use it is the other half.Good luck.