MikeJohnson724 0 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 ShIpItNIT (Observer): you hear about negreanu?Phil Gordon: no Phil Gordon: what about him ShIpItNIT (Observer): divorce Phil Gordon: doesn't surprise me muchShIpItNIT (Observer): phil, you still friends with danielPhil Gordon: no, i'd say not ShlpShIpItNIT (Observer): daniel is nicest guy in poker i thought Phil Gordon: pleasePhil Gordon: you can't really think thatPhil Gordon: ask barry greenstein Phil Gordon: annie duke Phil Gordon: chris ferguson Phil Gordon: or any of the other people that he has insulted over the course of the last 3 yearsShIpItNIT (Observer): i thought he was really respected? Phil Gordon: as a player, no doubt... as a person? no more comments Link to post Share on other sites
grocery_mony 9 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 I dont think too many people care about what Phil Gordon has to say. I think DN is brutally honest sometimes and some people dont like to hear it. Link to post Share on other sites
quadaces 0 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Who cares what Phil Gordan thinks about anyone?And I never heard DN was getting divorced?Edit: Just saw the new blog......too bad its tough great thing is they dont have kids, It makes it a million times harder. Unfortunatly I know from experience Link to post Share on other sites
drcossack 0 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Who cares what Phil Gordan thinks about anyone?And I never heard DN was getting divorced?New Blog Link to post Share on other sites
20TN40 0 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Who's Phil Gordon and why should I care what he thinks about anything? Link to post Share on other sites
ROACHBABY 0 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Yet another reason that I don't talk to Phil Gordon. Link to post Share on other sites
r0llin_game 2 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Who cares what Phil Gordan thinks about anyone?QFT, i was gunna put the same thing in there Link to post Share on other sites
fighter 4 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Phil Gordon has graced our forum before about a different issue. Here is the post. Everyone knows that annie and daniel never liked each other and daniel had that public spat with Chris and his use of the word "jesus" when he is atheist. Dont know what he is talking about with the barry greenstein insults What the??????? Did PHIL GORDON just matter of factly say that Erick Lindgren has two big weaknesses in his game? Then go on to give two examples that couldn't be more untrue? It's almost slanderous. E-DOG gambles on 50/50's before the flop? Huh?? What??? Huh??? What??? Is this guy serious???Yes, I’m serious. But maybe they are just weaknesses against a donkey like me.How in the world did Phil Gordon become enough of an authority to say that Erick has two weaknesses in his game? If someone like Johnny Chan, or Doyle Brunson, or Chip Reese said something like that it would be somewhat understandable. But we are talking about PHIL GORDON here!!! Everyone is entitled to their opinion, Daniel. Even PHIL “DONKEY” GORDON is entitled to an opinion.I'm still in shock after reading this. This dude done lost his mind. Now, I've done similarly stupid things in the past. Clearly I've crossed that line before and know that speaking negatively about others play isn't something that is usually a good idea. But for a non-professional poker player to critique an actual professional's game, and in doing so, be about as off base as humanly possible, just makes no sense to me.I wasn’t speaking negatively at all about EL. He knows how much I respect his game. He’s clearly one of the best, top 10, tournament players in the world. If you read the context of this article, you will probably notice that I’m talking solely about his play WITH RESPECT TO MY PLAY. Not with respect to your play. Or Chips. Or Doyle’s. Or Chan’s. See, Erick genuinely believes I’m a chump. And, maybe I am. But I know that he thinks I’m a chump, so I can take that into account when we’re playing together. I can make subtle chumpy adjustments to my play that might give me a slim, albeit mostly lucky, chance to win.The article comes off as though Gordon knows more about poker than Erick does. Phil, are you serious? Erick would absolutely trounce you at the poker table. He'd slap you up silly, seriously. You are talking about one of the best tournament players in the world today. A guy who's actually made his living playing the game of poker, whether it be online, in tournaments, or in cash games. What in the world makes you think you could spot a weakness in a player that plays better than you could even comprehend? Please, Daniel. The article doesn’t come off that way at all. That’s the way your warped brain wants to read it because you guys are so close. And maybe he would slap me silly at the table. You know what? He probably would. But, to say that he’s so much better than me that I can hardly comprehend it? Surely that is an overstatement and exaggeration. While I may not be the best poker player in the world, I’ve never represented myself as such. I know my limitations and weaknesses. I’m working on them all the time. But to say that I can’t comprehend how much better someone is than I am at NL? That just isn’t accurate. One of my biggest strengths is that I am acutely aware of the skills that my opponent has over me when they are better than I am — I’m ready and willing to acknowledge that skill differential and then try my damnedest to find a counterstrategy that will minimize it.Phil, did you proof read that column before you sent it? It makes you come off like a complete bafoon. You started out the column complimenting Erick, but you are like the king of the backhanded compliment or something, lol.Yes, I proof every column. And I spell check as well despite being a complete buffoon.Erick is a good buddy of mine, obviously, so you might say that I'm being biased. I'd challenge you to find 20 top players that think your comments where either accurate (in assessing his play), or appropriate coming from a TV Commentator/Author. No, I think you are being “Daniel.” You are unable to acknowledge that anyone who has an opinion different that your own could possibly be right — or even partially right. As far as me being a “TV Commentator and Author” goes, I’m guilty as charged. While you may be the best player in the world, I’m more than happy to be one of the best writers and teachers. We all have our strengths and weaknesses. By the way, I think you are an excellent writer yourself.For the record, I don't dislike you. I think you are completely wrong in this case, but I don't think you are a jerk or anything like that. I just don't understand what motivated you to write something like that in the way that you wrote it?I don’t dislike you either. In fact, I consider both you and Erick friends. We’ve had healthy debates in the past over other topics, and I would expect this to continue for some time. Re-read the article again, Danny. I wrote it only with the utmost respect for Erick, but I do point out the fact THAT HE THINKS I’M A DONKEY. Because of that fact, he plays sub-optimally against me when I might not be as big an *** as he thinks I am.It must be a really slow news week for you to be reading and commenting on my column.Best of luck. Hope to see you soon... Maybe we’ll draw one another in the Heads Up tournament for NBC. You’ll be salivating, I’ll be crapping my pants, and then I’ll be figuring out how you’ll play against me since I’m such easy money. I’ll probably write something about it too. Who knows, maybe I’ll even get lucky and win.... No, that wouldn’t really happen.Phil Gordon You did it again. You can "think" that he plays sub-optimally against you, and if you write it like that, then it's acceptable. When you write it as fact, that's where you cross the line. You assume too much. You assume that he thinks you are a donkey (maybe he does), but you also assume that his play against you is sub-optimal. In order to state that, you are basically saying that you know the optimal way that Erick should play against you, and that Erick, because of your "donkey" disguise doesn't know how to play you. Did I get that right? I will add this, I "think" you are overly sensitive about your play and the way people view you as a player. I "think" that clouds your judgement and causes you to react with phony self deprecating humor about your own game. You think people mock or make fun of you as a "tv commentator", but I don't think they do. I think you worry about that too much. That's just a guess, I could be totally wrong, but that's the feeling I get. You constantly say things like, "A good player would raise here, but I'm not a very good player." I don't think you believe that. I don't know exactly why you do that so often, but I have a few guesses. Link to post Share on other sites
HoosierAlum 0 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 = Link to post Share on other sites
HubDub04 0 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Phil Gordon is a faggot. Link to post Share on other sites
scram 1 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Who cares what Phil "Please, Somebody Like Me" Gordon thinks about anything. Epic douche.I mean, from the "poker fan" side- with DN, there are those who dig him and those who don't.With Gordon, opinion is near universal; everyone thinks he's a cunt. Link to post Share on other sites
Kuge 0 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 ShIpItNIT (Observer): you hear about negreanu?Phil Gordon: no Phil Gordon: what about him ShIpItNIT (Observer): divorce Phil Gordon: doesn't surprise me muchShIpItNIT (Observer): just like you having 0 WSOP braceletsWhat happened now? Link to post Share on other sites
scram 1 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 ShIpItNIT (Observer): you hear about negreanu?Phil Gordon: no Phil Gordon: what about him ShIpItNIT (Observer): divorce Phil Gordon: Ahhh, I see. Well, he's better off than me. When attractive women make overtures on nationally broadcast TV dating shows that they would like to have sex with me, I tell them that I'm "allergic" to hot tubs and deny their advances. Why? Because I'm a great big faggot douche dork who is hated by all, and even though I look like a man on the outside, beneath my zipper, next to my penis, lies a fully developed vagina Link to post Share on other sites
mase_gotsem 0 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 ok first off im gnna say this about phil gordon hes a complete douche bag for saying sht like that in chat let alone online where its gnna be publisized lolPhil you are such a conceded over telivised chump stick to the stock market and GTFO Link to post Share on other sites
fitzinabox 0 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 phil gordon is an ass, playing omaha wiht him now.fitzinabox: i heard phil gorodn is a daneil negreanu wannabePhil Gordon: surefitzinabox: lolfitzinabox: not true?Dealer: gravymaker595 has 15 seconds left to actPhil Gordon: believe me when i say this: I don't want to be 5'6Dealer: fitzinabox has 15 seconds left to actgravymaker595: lolfitzinabox: DN seems like a great guy to meheggi11 (Observer): isnt he like 5 3 ?Phil Gordon: dont believe everything you see on tv Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 the thing about phil gordon is he's a nice guy away from the tables but still goes into amateur whiny ass poker player when at the tables. Link to post Share on other sites
mase_gotsem 0 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Just opend table man i wish i had chat i wld so lose it right now haha get him tilted fitzoh and about that 5'6 comment thats about all phil has going for him in life besides his money Link to post Share on other sites
Fluffdog87 2 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Who cares what Phil "Please, Somebody Like Me" Gordon thinks about anything. Epic douche.I mean, from the "poker fan" side- with DN, there are those who dig him and those who don't.With Gordon, opinion is near universal; everyone thinks he's a cunt. E-PWNED! Link to post Share on other sites
fitzinabox 0 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 thx philFull Tilt Poker Game #4289178996: Table Master (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2:07:07 ET - 2007/11/25Seat 1: fitzinabox ($46.95)Seat 2: gravymaker595 ($715.10)Seat 3: Quietguy6 ($82.20)Seat 4: Doggystyle-K9 ($79.75)Seat 5: Phil Gordon ($239.20)Seat 6: mickben1 ($353.75)Phil Gordon posts the small blind of $0.50mickben1 posts the big blind of $1The button is in seat #4*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to fitzinabox [6s Kc Kh 6d]fitzinabox calls $1gravymaker595 foldsQuietguy6 foldsDoggystyle-K9 foldsPhil Gordon raises to $4mickben1 calls $3fitzinabox raises to $16Phil Gordon calls $12mickben1 folds*** FLOP *** [Ac 7c 2d]Phil Gordon checksfitzinabox checksheggi11 (Observer): phil why are u playin low stakes?*** TURN *** [Ac 7c 2d] [9d]Phil Gordon checksfitzinabox checks*** RIVER *** [Ac 7c 2d 9d] [Ah]Phil Gordon checksgravymaker595: why not fitzinabox bets $6Phil Gordon: wowPhil Gordon has 15 seconds left to actMr_Lacroix (Observer): make more money of the donkeys lol Phil Gordon calls $6fitzinabox: lolol*** SHOW DOWN ***fitzinabox shows [6s Kc Kh 6d] two pair, Aces and KingsMr_Lacroix (Observer): offFreeBaLLiN1979 (Observer): for his fans lolPhil Gordon mucksfitzinabox wins the pot ($45.60) with two pair, Aces and KingsKing1305 (Observer): i heard fitzinabox owns phil gordon*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $48 | Rake $2.40Board: [Ac 7c 2d 9d Ah]Seat 1: fitzinabox showed [6s Kc Kh 6d] and won ($45.60) with two pair, Aces and KingsSeat 2: gravymaker595 didn't bet (folded)Seat 3: Quietguy6 didn't bet (folded)Seat 4: Doggystyle-K9 (button) didn't bet (folded)Seat 5: Phil Gordon (small blind) mucked [Js Kd 7d Tc] - two pair, Aces and SevensSeat 6: mickben1 (big blind) folded before the Flop Link to post Share on other sites
ShaneO19 0 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Although Daniel is one of my favorite players and I don't like Phil Gordon, I can understand why Phil would have some disdain towards Daniel. I think it all stems from Daniel criticizing the players in the WPT lawsuit. I also remember Daniel criticizing Phil Gordon's play in one of those live FSN poker shows (even though Gordon won). Although I agree with Daniel's view on the Lindgren comments, I don't know why he thinks it's ok for him to give his opinions on everything and not ok for some other people even if Phil Gordon is a jackass. Link to post Share on other sites
king1305 0 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 *** SHOW DOWN ***fitzinabox shows [6s Kc Kh 6d] two pair, Aces and KingsMr_Lacroix (Observer): offFreeBaLLiN1979 (Observer): for his fans lolPhil Gordon mucksfitzinabox wins the pot ($45.60) with two pair, Aces and KingsKing1305 (Observer): i heard fitzinabox owns phil gordon*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $48 | Rake $2.40Board: [Ac 7c 2d 9d Ah]Seat 1: fitzinabox showed [6s Kc Kh 6d] and won ($45.60) with two pair, Aces and KingsSeat 2: gravymaker595 didn't bet (folded)Seat 3: Quietguy6 didn't bet (folded)Seat 4: Doggystyle-K9 (button) didn't bet (folded)Seat 5: Phil Gordon (small blind) mucked [Js Kd 7d Tc] - two pair, Aces and SevensSeat 6: mickben1 (big blind) folded before the Flop Link to post Share on other sites
ah2388 0 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 i explained to phil that hes a mountain of a man and id like to have his babies,im under the impression that he blocked my chat Link to post Share on other sites
dereeekho 0 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 I don't understand why Phil has to say that. He can hate DN, it's his right, but doing it in a public forum is somewhat immature to say the least. Link to post Share on other sites
AussieAssassin 0 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Phil Gordon: yes, my book sucks, yes i'm a fag, now go to bed Link to post Share on other sites
Jambot 0 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Phil Gordon is a faggot.It's pretty unfair to faggots to assosciate them with Phil Gordon don't you think? Link to post Share on other sites
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