pdr87 0 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 I sensed some weakness here. Mostly because he took so long to decide on the flop (can we trust this as a read on the lowest limits?). Villain has a big pf raising range.2nd barrel: reckless or necessary?Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.05/$0.106 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $10UTG+1: $7.40Hero: $9.55Button: $11.55SB: $3.95BB: $5.25Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with 7 7 UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.25, Hero raises to $0.9, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.65 (pot was $1.3).Flop: K A T ($1.95, 2 players)UTG+1 bets $0.5, Hero raises to $1.5, UTG+1 calls $1 (pot was $3.95).Turn: 8 ($4.95, 2 players)UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2.5, [To be continued] Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 1 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Mostly because he took so long to decide on the flop (can we trust this as a read on the lowest limits?)Something you can do is check to see if villain is multitabling, if they are chances are any delay is due to that. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 wtf just fold the flop!If you think you have enough fold equity, and insist on raising, raise the pot. The pot is 2.5, and you're raising to $1.5, he's calling $1 into a $4 pot.Also, give the **** up after you get called on the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
Dictius 0 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 You are probably right in sensing weakness, but I find at $10NL that people have trouble folding. He probably has a weakish Ace and is calling you down.I don't mind the idea of raising the flop, as his weak lead looks pretty fishy, but yeah raise more than $1.I don't like the second barrel, once he calls the flop I'm giving up. Link to post Share on other sites
radmanjeff 0 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 wtf just fold the flop!If you think you have enough fold equity, and insist on raising, raise the pot. The pot is 2.5, and you're raising to $1.5, he's calling $1 into a $4 pot.Also, give the **** up after you get called on the flop.Why so angry Zach.... lol As played : Listen to ZACH!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Ah, there's no anger there. Just enthusiasm! Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Ah, there's no anger there. Just enthusiasm! Zach would be a good football coach.I mean Hockey coach, whatever. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Also, how often is everyone 3-betting preflop with this hand? Link to post Share on other sites
Dictius 0 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 OP said villain has a big pf raising range so I'm 3 betting here fairly often in position. 77 is a decent hand that should be played for more than just set value, so you want to be in control of the hand when you are going to the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
pdr87 0 Posted November 23, 2007 Author Share Posted November 23, 2007 I would never 3-bet here without the reads I had on the villain. Link to post Share on other sites
pdr87 0 Posted November 23, 2007 Author Share Posted November 23, 2007 And to make things clear:I did not play this aggressive because of the strength of my hand. I felt extreme weakness here. Results in a moment, if anyone wanna discuss this some more first. Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 With the most likely thing with him being slow to act on the flop being multi-tabling, or bathroom breaking, or something other than weakness, I don't really think that can ever be a stone read, especially at lower levels.I personally don't really like it, but if you're going with you're reads, you're fine. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 The biggest problem with this, is that he may very well be weak, we may have read him perfectly. That by no means guarantees he's laying down a K or a T, and almost NEVER laying down an ace.His bet looks like one of those amateur "information" bets, but they rarely, if ever use the information they receive. Link to post Share on other sites
pdr87 0 Posted November 23, 2007 Author Share Posted November 23, 2007 He did lay it down though. PUH Link to post Share on other sites
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