serge 904 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I thought I get this out in the open before the Leaf bashers have a field day with it...He made a mistake and we are moving on..Leafs nation is behind Jiri in this matter and thats all we will say for now..http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=ArXS...t&type=lgns Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted November 14, 2007 Author Share Posted November 14, 2007 The Toronto Sun buffoons are having a field day with it , and they have run it on the front page..http://torontosun.com/FrontPage/2007/11/14/4654616.htmlHere is the website that posted the pics...Tlusty through a lawyer has gotten them removed for nowhttp://isthishappening.com/link to the Steve Simmons articlehttp://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Toron...14/4653949.htmlThe leafs and habs play a great exciting game, Wellwood scores two goals and we have to have this on the front page..Also in small print they dont waste time by mentioning Mccabe's giveaway..no headline about Wellwood's 2 goals..I have officially committed myself not to buy the Toronto Sun ever..and when did Steve Simmons become a gossip columnist..Stick writing to hockey Steve...I have just sent an email to Steve Simmons on the absurd coverage he and his paper has given this stupid story. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 lmao!I don't see why this is a big deal though. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted November 14, 2007 Author Share Posted November 14, 2007 Here is a copy of the email I just sent Steve Simmons.Hello Mr.Simmons,I decided to write to you today after seeing the cover of the Toronto Sun. I have read your articles for i dont know how many years, and I have found your writing style entertaining and you seem like a very knowledgeable guy.However I think your newspaper this morning has finally crossed the line. The Toronto Maple Leafs play a great game last night led by the play of Kyle Wellwood and Andrew Raycroft, another epic battle that they just fell short to the Habs, and what do we see on the front cover but tabloid gossip trash about some pictures that Tlusty took as a teenager. This following up on the personal attack of Bryan Mccabe on the cover a month ago. Now I know you guys took a lot of flack for that , and the paper apologized to Mccabe. However this is even worse.Steve, I realize you probably didnt make the decision to put this on the front page and it was the editors, however your name is on the article and it just tarnishes your repuation as a hockey journalist.I grew up reading your paper , however after this current article I cant justify buying the Toronto Sun anymore. I wish you all the best in your career and I hope your editors can live with themselves trying to ruin a young bright kids career.ThanksSerge BLong time Maple Leafs fanI doubt he will respond but if he does I will post it.. Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Leafs nation is behind JiriFrom the looks of that picture, they're not the only ones..... Link to post Share on other sites
TaxLawyer71 0 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 From the looks of that picture, they're not the only ones.....I think we need Ron Mexico's comments on these pictures. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I don't see why this is a big deal though.agree. its just dumb Toronto media stuff, what else do you expect from a rag like the Sun. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Wait, hockey players have dicks?Seriously, who cares. Let me know when Krissy Wendell's full frontals show up, Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 agree. its just dumb Toronto media stuff, what else do you expect from a rag like the Sun. Actually, the photos have been out there for several days, and no one was bringing it up in the press, because they felt it was unfair to Tlusty. And THEN.... last night, after the game, the Leafs P.R. department handed out a WRITTEN STATEMENT about the photos and that Tlusty would not discuss it any further. At that point, it became public knowledge, and all the papers had to run the story since it became public news. This would likely have never come public if it hadn't been for..... the Toronto Maple Leafs themselves.... Link to post Share on other sites
SilverSeven 0 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Actually, the photos have been out there for several days, and no one was bringing it up in the press, because they felt it was unfair to Tlusty. And THEN.... last night, after the game, the Leafs P.R. department handed out a WRITTEN STATEMENT about the photos and that Tlusty would not discuss it any further. At that point, it became public knowledge, and all the papers had to run the story since it became public news. This would likely have never come public if it hadn't been for..... the Toronto Maple Leafs themselves....Hmmm...if I was Tlusty's agent I would go ballistic over this...WTF were the Leafs PR people thinking ??? Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted November 14, 2007 Author Share Posted November 14, 2007 All the papers had to run the story???They had to eh???They put a gun to their heads...They only ran it because they didnt know about it before...And running the story and glorifying on your front cover are two different things... Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 All the papers had to run the story???They had to eh???They put a gun to their heads...They only ran it because they didnt know about it before...And running the story and glorifying on your front cover are two different things...Believe me, it could be worse. I live in the US where the news media flat-out refuses to talk about hockey at all. I have to go to websites that end in ".ca" just to get any hockey news. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted November 14, 2007 Author Share Posted November 14, 2007 Its a frigging soap opera playing for the Leafs and the Habs...Just some recent "scandals" and fun stuff that has happened in the last couple of weeks.-The French Media in Quebec get on Saku Koivu's case for not speaking french to reporters.- Tucker/Avery cancergate...Did he or didnt he???We discussed that to death for 3 days- Jiri Tlusty...Nude picturesWhats next ?? Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 All the papers had to run the story???They had to eh???They put a gun to their heads...They only ran it because they didnt know about it before...And running the story and glorifying on your front cover are two different things...Okay, serge, I will try to explain this one time with civility, because I believe you don't understand this. Occasionally, a story pops up that has no redeeming merit to sportswriters. It may be something personal, or something hurtful, and writers will sit on it because they just don't think it's necessary to print it. HOWEVER... if that story then becomes public knowledge, you become obliged to acknowledge the story and write about it, since it will be in EVERY OTHER NEWS OUTLET, and if you don't write it, you look like you're out of the loop. I knew about the Tlusty story 3 or 4 days ago. So did MANY other writers. But once the Leafs hand out a press release about it.... what the hell are writers supposed to do? They are then obliged to write the story. As for the Sun covers... as I've explained before, that's not the choice of the writers. That's the editor's call. Link to post Share on other sites
pezeveng 207 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 This will have a shelf life of 3 days if that, its not a big deal. Deal the next hand. Link to post Share on other sites
pezeveng 207 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Gruven I just don`t think its front page material. Reporting it is one thing but front page come on thats the trashy Sun at its best. Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Gruven I just don`t think its front page material. Reporting it is one thing but front page come on thats the trashy Sun at its best.Hence the point I made: writers have no say what goes on the front of a newpaper. The editor in chief decides that. Choosing a trashy story like this for your cover reflects on the direction the paper tends to run, not the writers... Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted November 14, 2007 Author Share Posted November 14, 2007 Okay, serge, I will try to explain this one time with civility, because I believe you don't understand this. Occasionally, a story pops up that has no redeeming merit to sportswriters. It may be something personal, or something hurtful, and writers will sit on it because they just don't think it's necessary to print it. HOWEVER... if that story then becomes public knowledge, you become obliged to acknowledge the story and write about it, since it will be in EVERY OTHER NEWS OUTLET, and if you don't write it, you look like you're out of the loop. I knew about the Tlusty story 3 or 4 days ago. So did MANY other writers. But once the Leafs hand out a press release about it.... what the hell are writers supposed to do? They are then obliged to write the story. As for the Sun covers... as I've explained before, that's not the choice of the writers. That's the editor's call.I totally understand what you are saying and thats great I respect the writers doing their job...My whole issue is the sensationalizing of the story...Front page news this is not...and when I wrote Steve Simmons this morning I acknowledged the fact that he probably had no say in running it on the cover, but his name is associated with the story...Simmons job is to report on sports and not tabloid trash...Its not just Toronto, as we saw with the A ROD stuff the New York papers are notorious for running stuff like this on the front page as well... Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_16742.aspxMistake number three was sending those shots to a girlfriend. They wound up on a variety of Internet sites and have now come back to haunt the embarrassed teenager, who's bound to take a huge ribbing from fellow players. The photos, apparently taken when the rookie was celebrating his birthday in his hometown of Slany in the Czech Republic, show the future hockey star touching tongues with a friend and later looking into a mirror completely naked. Since then, a number of sites - including many catering to the gay community - have picked up the private photos and posted them prominently across the worldwide web.Toronto media - sensationalist? Pshaw. Link to post Share on other sites
Belanger25 3 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 It was on HF a week ago. Slow news day here. Did Wellwood sleep in? Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Did Wellwood sleep in?Jiri stole all the covers. They're not speaking. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I appreciate Gruven's inside knowledge and his points are well made, but I stick by my original statement, its just dumb when you look at it as a whole. Why do I care about these pictures? Why should anyone?You want to absolve the writers, fine. But I am nowhere near convinced the blame lays at the PR dept and not at Sun Media.They control the message, and today, this is the message they chose.So what if the leafs PR dept. made a statement? As others have mentioned, that didnt suddenly call for a front page splash. Write about it, report it, ok. Sensationalize it to this degree? Come on. Your telling me if the PR department sends out a release tommorow about 10players going to a charity event that the Sun will even put it ANYWHERE in their paper? NOT! Its all their call, just like today was.That said, I understand why the Sun felt the need to use a front page of Tlusty to sell papers. Once people get a sniff of the story overnight, what a great way to broadcast it even louder and make them buy the paper in the box with a catchy picture. It's just the most obvious way to sell papers, lowest common denominator baby! So I don't begrudge them trying to make a buck. But again, this is why its overblown and why its so pathetic. Im sure every city has one, but ours is more greatly tied to the hockey team than any other city, and hence todays crap.I have all the respect in the world for writers if they held off the story. I think that is very commendable and its great to know this happens often. But Im not shocked to hear many personal items are left off the pages. At the end of the day, however, they represent the Sun, and the Sun represents them. And today, the paper looks like the rag that it is. And the writers in turn look bad for working at such a paper. Link to post Share on other sites
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