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#1 psufans2

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Posted 01 November 2007 - 07:47 PM

alright mods give me like an hour before u move this. so i am in this classical myth class and have an essay on the aeneid tomm and could use some help. anyone who has read it here is the prompt and hopefully i can get some good feedback due to the fact i didnt buy the book or read it

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Below you will find the essay prompt for your third exam. Read it carefully. You may write notes, an outline, quotes, etc. on this sheet to assist you in writing the exam. This means that you must print this sheet out and write your essay notes on it—not on a separate piece of paper (those will not be allowed). You will be permitted to only use notes that are written/printed on this sheet. You may NOT write out the entire essay—that must be done during class time. When you arrive to class on exam day, take this sheet with your notes, attach clean writing paper, and give both to me before class begins. If you do not have this sheet, another will not be provided (and you won’t be permitted to look at someone else’s prompt). After you have turned in the objective part of the exam, you will pick up your sheets and have the balance of class time to write your essay.

Writing Prompt: On the last essay exam, many of you noted that one of the reasons that Homer told the story in the way he did was to show all aspects of Achilles’ character. Achilles is portrayed in battle, on the sidelines, interacting with his mother, grieving over a friend, challenging the king, etc. The audience also learns about Achilles through other characters talking about him. How can Vergil’s Aeneid be compared to the Iliad in regard to the development of Aeneas’s character? Does the reader get to see all facets of Aeneas’s like he/she gets to see Achilles’s character? What do you think and why? Why would this be important (or not) to the Aeneid?


Your essay should contain an introduction with an overall point that addresses the prompt and specific reasons that support this point. The essay should be organized by these reasons and supported using specific information from class notes, discussion, and reading. Your essay should also contain a conclusion that does not merely restate the introductory paragraph.
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Posted 01 November 2007 - 07:56 PM

common i know someone here has read this wonderful piece of me wanting to take a nap
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Posted 01 November 2007 - 08:07 PM

QUOTE (psufans2 @ Thursday, November 1st, 2007, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
common i know someone here has read this wonderful piece of me wanting to take a nap


I have read it, but I (probably like everyone else here) can't remember a damn thing from it.
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#4 psufans2

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Posted 01 November 2007 - 08:09 PM

QUOTE (aadams_22 @ Friday, November 2nd, 2007, 12:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have read it, but I (probably like everyone else here) can't remember a damn thing from it.



that is the exact reason y i didnt read it. i usually get "help" from other people in the class during the exam but the kid i usually get "help" off of is leaving early to go home for the weekend to philly and isnt taking it with us
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Posted 01 November 2007 - 08:10 PM

QUOTE (psufans2 @ Thursday, November 1st, 2007, 7:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hopefully i can get some good feedback due to the fact i didnt buy the book or read it


You don't need feedback, you need someone to write it for you. Good luck with that.

When I saw the thread title I thought that you were an extraordinarily bad drunk typer trying to say "I need help". Obviously I wasn't a big fan of the classic myths.
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#6 psufans2

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Posted 01 November 2007 - 08:12 PM

QUOTE (speedz99 @ Friday, November 2nd, 2007, 12:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You don't need feedback, you need someone to write it for you. Good luck with that.

When I saw the thread title I thought that you were an extraordinarily bad drunk typer trying to say "I need help". Obviously I wasn't a big fan of the classic myths.



lol no i was meaning i need the outline done lol hoping someone has something on it and it was fresh and trust me i hate classic myth especially when the teacher is a feminist who hates me.
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Posted 01 November 2007 - 08:14 PM

Read it (in Latin), CRADT.

http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page will have a copy if you feel like reading.
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Posted 01 November 2007 - 08:16 PM

QUOTE (psufans2 @ Thursday, November 1st, 2007, 8:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
lol no i was meaning i need the outline done lol hoping someone has something on it and it was fresh and trust me i hate classic myth especially when the teacher is a feminist who hates me.

Perhaps she hates you because you're a cheating plagarist who wants to skate through her class without even bothering to try and do the basic assignments?

Nah.

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Posted 01 November 2007 - 08:20 PM

QUOTE (Pot Odds RAC @ Friday, November 2nd, 2007, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Perhaps she hates you because you're a cheating plagarist who wants to skate through her class without even bothering to try and do the basic assignments?

Nah.



nah i would go witn me taking naps during class and actually answering a phone call in there but w/e we want to go with.
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Posted 01 November 2007 - 08:22 PM

Never read it, never heard of it.. Good luck, bum.

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Posted 01 November 2007 - 08:23 PM

QUOTE (wsox8 @ Friday, November 2nd, 2007, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Never read it, never heard of it.. Good luck, bum.




reaaaalllllllllllllllllllllly never would have guessed lool
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Posted 01 November 2007 - 08:23 PM

Yea I dunno. Even if I did remember enough of both stories to help you I probably wouldn't. You're coming off as a total douche.


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Posted 01 November 2007 - 08:27 PM

Your entire should focus on the two most important points in Aeneas' life: his parting with his father and his killing of Turnus. I would also discuss when on his way to Italy when he stops to weep before a memorial of the Trojan War. These moments more than any others outline his character.

Your main point should be that Aeneas is a pussy. Honestly, this is quite true. The guy carries his father though a battle when it's clear that his father isn't going to make it and is holding him back. He then embarks on his epic quest to begin the Roman Empire, the greatest empire in the universe (according to the intended audience of the author). But on his way, he sees a little picture and starts crying. I mean, what a total loser. This is supposed to be our great hero? Come on.

In this way, he's very much like Achilleus. He was a total loser as well. The beginning of the Iliad began with him whining over some girls that were taken from him. Boo frickin hoo. You're supposed to be the greatest warrior of all time! You're supposed to be gaining immortality though battle. You're supposed to die a glorious death on the battlefield and be remembered forever for it. That's how the Greek mind worked: there is nothing greater than being heroic. Yet the two most important heroes of the Trojan war were total pussies.

I mean, look at the last two sentences of the book. Aeneas has his arch enemy wounded on the ground. He has his sword in his hand. Yet he has to stand there, wondering whether or not he should kill him. THERE SHOULD BE NO HESITATION!. You jam your sword though his heart, win the battle, found Rome, and be remembered forever.

Anyway, I'm not so sure as to exactly what the question wanted, but I think you could write a strong essay comparing Aeneas to Achilleus, and I would use the three examples that I posted above as the main bodies of your essay.

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Posted 01 November 2007 - 08:28 PM

QUOTE (Pot Odds RAC @ Thursday, November 1st, 2007, 8:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Perhaps she hates you because you're a cheating plagarist who wants to skate through her class without even bothering to try and do the basic assignments?

Nah.


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Posted 01 November 2007 - 08:28 PM

QUOTE (wsox8 @ Friday, November 2nd, 2007, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Never read it, never heard of it.. Good luck, bum.



No worries, it's only probably the most important piece of literature ever. I'm sure it's no big deal.

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Posted 01 November 2007 - 08:30 PM

QUOTE (LongLiveYorke @ Thursday, November 1st, 2007, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No worries, it's only probably the most important piece of literature ever. I'm sure it's no big deal.

I'm just an ignorant tard.

PS. Tell that to PSU, the person who actually has to read it.

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Posted 01 November 2007 - 08:31 PM

QUOTE (LongLiveYorke @ Thursday, November 1st, 2007, 9:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No worries, it's only probably the most important piece of literature ever. I'm sure it's no big deal.

I think you're a grad student? Anyway you might be able to relate to this.

I was proctoring a test and two people were trying to share a calculator. How retarded is that?

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Posted 01 November 2007 - 08:32 PM

QUOTE (wsox8 @ Friday, November 2nd, 2007, 12:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm just an ignorant tard.

PS. Tell that to PSU, the person who actually has to read it.



at least i have heard about it u turd
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#19 psufans2

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Posted 01 November 2007 - 08:32 PM

btw i thought everybody poops is most important literature of all time i guess just me
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Posted 01 November 2007 - 08:33 PM

QUOTE (runthemover @ Thursday, November 1st, 2007, 8:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you're a grad student? Anyway you might be able to relate to this.

I was proctoring a test and two people were trying to share a calculator. How retarded is that?


Dude, it's so uncool that you stopped them. Fucking narc.
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