psufans2 1 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 alright mods give me like an hour before u move this. so i am in this classical myth class and have an essay on the aeneid tomm and could use some help. anyone who has read it here is the prompt and hopefully i can get some good feedback due to the fact i didnt buy the book or read it<3<3Below you will find the essay prompt for your third exam. Read it carefully. You may write notes, an outline, quotes, etc. on this sheet to assist you in writing the exam. This means that you must print this sheet out and write your essay notes on it—not on a separate piece of paper (those will not be allowed). You will be permitted to only use notes that are written/printed on this sheet. You may NOT write out the entire essay—that must be done during class time. When you arrive to class on exam day, take this sheet with your notes, attach clean writing paper, and give both to me before class begins. If you do not have this sheet, another will not be provided (and you won’t be permitted to look at someone else’s prompt). After you have turned in the objective part of the exam, you will pick up your sheets and have the balance of class time to write your essay.Writing Prompt: On the last essay exam, many of you noted that one of the reasons that Homer told the story in the way he did was to show all aspects of Achilles’ character. Achilles is portrayed in battle, on the sidelines, interacting with his mother, grieving over a friend, challenging the king, etc. The audience also learns about Achilles through other characters talking about him. How can Vergil’s Aeneid be compared to the Iliad in regard to the development of Aeneas’s character? Does the reader get to see all facets of Aeneas’s like he/she gets to see Achilles’s character? What do you think and why? Why would this be important (or not) to the Aeneid? Your essay should contain an introduction with an overall point that addresses the prompt and specific reasons that support this point. The essay should be organized by these reasons and supported using specific information from class notes, discussion, and reading. Your essay should also contain a conclusion that does not merely restate the introductory paragraph. Link to post Share on other sites
psufans2 1 Posted November 2, 2007 Author Share Posted November 2, 2007 common i know someone here has read this wonderful piece of me wanting to take a nap Link to post Share on other sites
aadams_22 3 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 common i know someone here has read this wonderful piece of me wanting to take a napI have read it, but I (probably like everyone else here) can't remember a damn thing from it. Link to post Share on other sites
psufans2 1 Posted November 2, 2007 Author Share Posted November 2, 2007 I have read it, but I (probably like everyone else here) can't remember a damn thing from it.that is the exact reason y i didnt read it. i usually get "help" from other people in the class during the exam but the kid i usually get "help" off of is leaving early to go home for the weekend to philly and isnt taking it with us Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 hopefully i can get some good feedback due to the fact i didnt buy the book or read itYou don't need feedback, you need someone to write it for you. Good luck with that.When I saw the thread title I thought that you were an extraordinarily bad drunk typer trying to say "I need help". Obviously I wasn't a big fan of the classic myths. Link to post Share on other sites
psufans2 1 Posted November 2, 2007 Author Share Posted November 2, 2007 You don't need feedback, you need someone to write it for you. Good luck with that.When I saw the thread title I thought that you were an extraordinarily bad drunk typer trying to say "I need help". Obviously I wasn't a big fan of the classic myths.lol no i was meaning i need the outline done lol hoping someone has something on it and it was fresh and trust me i hate classic myth especially when the teacher is a feminist who hates me. Link to post Share on other sites
Pan 0 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Read it (in Latin), CRADT.http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page will have a copy if you feel like reading. Link to post Share on other sites
Pot Odds RAC 23 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 lol no i was meaning i need the outline done lol hoping someone has something on it and it was fresh and trust me i hate classic myth especially when the teacher is a feminist who hates me.Perhaps she hates you because you're a cheating plagarist who wants to skate through her class without even bothering to try and do the basic assignments?Nah. Link to post Share on other sites
psufans2 1 Posted November 2, 2007 Author Share Posted November 2, 2007 Perhaps she hates you because you're a cheating plagarist who wants to skate through her class without even bothering to try and do the basic assignments?Nah.nah i would go witn me taking naps during class and actually answering a phone call in there but w/e we want to go with. Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Never read it, never heard of it.. Good luck, bum. Link to post Share on other sites
psufans2 1 Posted November 2, 2007 Author Share Posted November 2, 2007 Never read it, never heard of it.. Good luck, bum.reaaaalllllllllllllllllllllly never would have guessed lool Link to post Share on other sites
runthemover 40 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Yea I dunno. Even if I did remember enough of both stories to help you I probably wouldn't. You're coming off as a total douche.Anyway, try spark notes. Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Your entire should focus on the two most important points in Aeneas' life: his parting with his father and his killing of Turnus. I would also discuss when on his way to Italy when he stops to weep before a memorial of the Trojan War. These moments more than any others outline his character. Your main point should be that Aeneas is a pussy. Honestly, this is quite true. The guy carries his father though a battle when it's clear that his father isn't going to make it and is holding him back. He then embarks on his epic quest to begin the Roman Empire, the greatest empire in the universe (according to the intended audience of the author). But on his way, he sees a little picture and starts crying. I mean, what a total loser. This is supposed to be our great hero? Come on.In this way, he's very much like Achilleus. He was a total loser as well. The beginning of the Iliad began with him whining over some girls that were taken from him. Boo frickin hoo. You're supposed to be the greatest warrior of all time! You're supposed to be gaining immortality though battle. You're supposed to die a glorious death on the battlefield and be remembered forever for it. That's how the Greek mind worked: there is nothing greater than being heroic. Yet the two most important heroes of the Trojan war were total pussies. I mean, look at the last two sentences of the book. Aeneas has his arch enemy wounded on the ground. He has his sword in his hand. Yet he has to stand there, wondering whether or not he should kill him. THERE SHOULD BE NO HESITATION!. You jam your sword though his heart, win the battle, found Rome, and be remembered forever.Anyway, I'm not so sure as to exactly what the question wanted, but I think you could write a strong essay comparing Aeneas to Achilleus, and I would use the three examples that I posted above as the main bodies of your essay. Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Perhaps she hates you because you're a cheating plagarist who wants to skate through her class without even bothering to try and do the basic assignments?Nah.Nah. Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Never read it, never heard of it.. Good luck, bum.No worries, it's only probably the most important piece of literature ever. I'm sure it's no big deal. Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 No worries, it's only probably the most important piece of literature ever. I'm sure it's no big deal.I'm just an ignorant tard.PS. Tell that to PSU, the person who actually has to read it. Link to post Share on other sites
runthemover 40 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 No worries, it's only probably the most important piece of literature ever. I'm sure it's no big deal.I think you're a grad student? Anyway you might be able to relate to this.I was proctoring a test and two people were trying to share a calculator. How retarded is that? Link to post Share on other sites
psufans2 1 Posted November 2, 2007 Author Share Posted November 2, 2007 I'm just an ignorant tard.PS. Tell that to PSU, the person who actually has to read it.at least i have heard about it u turd Link to post Share on other sites
psufans2 1 Posted November 2, 2007 Author Share Posted November 2, 2007 btw i thought everybody poops is most important literature of all time i guess just me Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 I think you're a grad student? Anyway you might be able to relate to this.I was proctoring a test and two people were trying to share a calculator. How retarded is that?Dude, it's so uncool that you stopped them. Fucking narc. Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 at least i have heard about it u turdAre you going to hijack your own thread?Okay, I'll go with it................. The only reason you've heard of it is because you HAVE to read it. Now get reading. Link to post Share on other sites
psufans2 1 Posted November 2, 2007 Author Share Posted November 2, 2007 Your entire should focus on the two most important points in Aeneas' life: his parting with his father and his killing of Turnus. I would also discuss when on his way to Italy when he stops to weep before a memorial of the Trojan War. These moments more than any others outline his character. Your main point should be that Aeneas is a pussy. Honestly, this is quite true. The guy carries his father though a battle when it's clear that his father isn't going to make it and is holding him back. He then embarks on his epic quest to begin the Roman Empire, the greatest empire in the universe (according to the intended audience of the author). But on his way, he sees a little picture and starts crying. I mean, what a total loser. This is supposed to be our great hero? Come on.In this way, he's very much like Achilleus. He was a total loser as well. The beginning of the Iliad began with him whining over some girls that were taken from him. Boo frickin hoo. You're supposed to be the greatest warrior of all time! You're supposed to be gaining immortality though battle. You're supposed to die a glorious death on the battlefield and be remembered forever for it. That's how the Greek mind worked: there is nothing greater than being heroic. Yet the two most important heroes of the Trojan war were total pussies. I mean, look at the last two sentences of the book. Aeneas has his arch enemy wounded on the ground. He has his sword in his hand. Yet he has to stand there, wondering whether or not he should kill him. THERE SHOULD BE NO HESITATION!. You jam your sword though his heart, win the battle, found Rome, and be remembered forever.Anyway, I'm not so sure as to exactly what the question wanted, but I think you could write a strong essay comparing Aeneas to Achilleus, and I would use the three examples that I posted above as the main bodies of your essay. u im doing my essay on this Link to post Share on other sites
runthemover 40 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Dude, it's so uncool that you stopped them. Fucking narc.it would've been so awesome to rip a test in half though Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 it would've been so awesome to rip a test in half thoughIt would have been...but you were probably right not to. I hope you did your best to embarrass them at least a little. Link to post Share on other sites
runthemover 40 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 I think me walking up to their desks scared them enough. me having to tell them that sharing a calculator is not proper procedure was probably embarrassing enough or at least rattled them a bit. Link to post Share on other sites
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