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#1 custom36

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 04:22 PM

*The converter does not recognize PokerRoom. Deal with it.Seat 1: ironlion23 ($59.90 in chips) Seat 2: gamemaker ($31.05 in chips) Seat 3: jefe001 ($17.30 in chips) Seat 4: bigred97 ($58.15 in chips) Seat 5: missmybro ($58.85 in chips) Seat 6: SamJack ($24.25 in chips) Seat 7: Bagman206 ($24.10 in chips) Seat 8: vwjoe ($6.55 in chips) Seat 9: Bevo39 ($17 in chips) Seat 10: kman36 [6S,6C] ($12.35 in chips) ANTES/BLINDSjefe001 posts blind ($0.25), bigred97 posts blind ($0.50).PRE-FLOPmissmybro calls $0.50, SamJack folds, Bagman206 folds, vwjoe folds, Bevo39 folds, kman36 calls $0.50, ironlion23 calls $0.50, gamemaker folds, jefe001 calls $0.25, bigred97 checks.FLOP [board cards 4D,2H,3H ]jefe001 checks, bigred97 bets $0.50, missmybro calls $0.50, kman36....Turn: 8sRiver: KdNot quite sure what the best move here (and on the rest of the hand) is.

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 04:24 PM

i am raising PF to try to get it heads upand raising the flop

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 04:27 PM

raise the flop, if re-raised, call and fold to a bet on the turn UI.IF they just call your raise, bet the turn. if it's bet before you, raise it and fold to a 3 bet.

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 04:50 PM

you have a weak hand, overpair 66. I think you should treat this hand like a gutshot draw, because there are too many cards that hit that will be a overcard. The only reason I see for raising the flop is if it would buy you a freecard, raising doesn't protect your hand and your hand is not strong enough to raise for value.Raising the turn and folding to a 3-bet is chip spewing. It costs you 2BB with no showdown. If you plan on wasting 2 BB, you might as well call down and get a showdown, at least you get something out of spending 2 BB.That being said, I'd call 1 bet and fold the turn unimproved. Maybe even fold the flop. With small pairs multi-way, I am looking to make a set, if I don't make a set, I would fold.Also, the pot is not that big, so you have no need to play agressive in small pots.

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 04:53 PM

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you have a weak hand, overpair 66. I think you should treat this hand like a gutshot draw, because there are too many cards that hit that will be a overcard. The only reason I see for raising the flop is if it would buy you a freecard, raising doesn't protect your hand and your hand is not strong enough to raise for value.Raising the turn and folding to a 3-bet is chip spewing. It costs you 2BB with no showdown. If you plan on wasting 2 BB, you might as well call down and get a showdown, at least you get something out of spending 2 BB.That being said, I'd call 1 bet and fold the turn unimproved. Maybe even fold the flop. With small pairs multi-way, I am looking to make a set, if I don't make a set, I would fold.Also, the pot is not that big, so you have no need to play agressive in small pots.
agreed, but with his position i think there is argument for being aggressive pre-flop

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 04:54 PM

It certainly isnt ABC, but theres one limper to him in good position, he can make it one more bet pre-flop and have position going in to the flop

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 05:44 PM

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It certainly isnt ABC, but theres one limper to him in good position, he can make it one more bet pre-flop and have position going in to the flop
yea, buying the button is good. I suck when it comes to isolation plays, I never know when it's right to do them. This would have been a good flop for 66 if fewer opponents were in the hand.

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 05:53 PM

Um, he most likely has the best hand. This is an easy raise. Plus, if a 5 does hit, he has great implied odds against anyone with an A.However, he could be up against as many as 21 outs (flush draw + overcards). Too bad you didn't have better position to push someone out.




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