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Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.255 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $28.90Hero: $25.15Button: $22.90SB: $35.95BB: $23.50Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with A :) Q :D Q :D J :D UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, BB calls.Flop: J :) 8 :) J :club: ($1.8, 2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $0.9, BB calls.Turn: J :D ($3.6, 2 players)BB checks, Hero checks.River: Q :icon_dance: ($3.6, 2 players)BB bets $3.6, Hero raises to $11.75, BB raises all-in $21.75, Hero ????I have the 2nd and 3rd nut on a tight board with the Ac. Must I donate this $10 even though it is pretty obvious what he has? Opponent has done nothing to make me think he is pulling off some super bluff.

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um yeah. u have to.the only hand that can beat u is the 9c10c X Xum, yeah. 2nd nuts. why wouldnt u put him on just a flush or a straight?i mean, it is .10/.25anyways, yeah id calland u prolly did and he turned up the straight flush, right?

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I mean...I know this is PLO......hand standards are a lot different than holdem...but good lord, can this EVER be a fold...........if this is a hand that you have to fold sometimes in this game, than I will never ever play. Seems absolutely rediculous to me.......especially at low limits.....

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As bad as people talk about this limit type of player, there are very very few of them that would do this with anything short of a solid hand. I obv didn't fold and paid off the straight flush. I know I can't fold, but if there is an instance where you just know you have to beat then this is it.

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If the guy's a regular and you really know his play well, then yeah this is foldable, but against anyone you have <500 hands on, I think paying it off's the correct move. The other day, I was playing with a guy with tight stats who reraised me on the river on a paired board and I folded the 2nd high boat (behind top boat and quads), thinking he'd have to have a good boat there to reraise and it turned out he though he was value raising an A-hi flush because he was tilted that I'd made a "crazy push with QQ" against his AA earlier when I had 14 outs. The point is that at low stakes, people make a lot of crazy plays. It's not really something exclusive to low stakes either, but moving down lately, I've noticed that I'm better off calling down with weak hands against a lot of players until I really get a feel for how well they understand the hand values in PLO.

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