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#1 BetItAll33

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 10:11 AM

Is there a different way?Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is BB with Ac, Kd. 8 folds, SB calls.Flop: (6 SB) 7h, 6d, 2h (2 players)SB bets, SB calls.Turn: (5 BB) 4c (2 players)SB bets, Hero folds.Final Pot: 6 BB

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 10:15 AM

Seems fine...you tried to raise to get a free river card, and it didn't work.Nice hand.

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 11:27 AM

That's about as simple as it gets...what points are you opening for discussion?

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 11:28 AM

call the flop fold the turn UI
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Posted 27 April 2005 - 11:30 AM

DCWildcat said:

That's about as simple as it gets...what points are you opening for discussion?
sounds like you would take my line, rather than KDawgs?

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 11:38 AM

BetItAll33 said:

DCWildcat said:

That's about as simple as it gets...what points are you opening for discussion?
sounds like you would take my line, rather than KDawgs?
trust me, my line saves money. Its a very draw heavy board, which sucks for you to raise it. call and fold UI
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Posted 27 April 2005 - 12:21 PM

Noone's looking this guy up?We have the nut-no-pair hand...
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Posted 27 April 2005 - 12:22 PM

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Noone's looking this guy up?We have the nut-no-pair hand...
He called my 3 bet, then called my raise , then led out on the turn! You don't think he has a pair?

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 12:27 PM

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BetItAll33 said:

DCWildcat said:

That's about as simple as it gets...what points are you opening for discussion?
sounds like you would take my line, rather than KDawgs?
trust me, my line saves money. Its a very draw heavy board, which sucks for you to raise it. call and fold UI
which draw are you worried about exactly... do you think has 34 or 58? Hearts seem like the only somewhat legitimate concern.

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 12:28 PM

BetItAll33 said:

wrto4556 said:

Noone's looking this guy up?We have the nut-no-pair hand...
He called my 3 bet, then called my raise , then led out on the turn! You don't think he has a pair?
He may. But A-high is gold heads up. He could be pulling a stop n go with AJ, KQ. Lots of hands you have beat. Im not sure. But I would just call him down from the first bet he makes postflop. I really could be convinced otherwise...
back for kramit

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 12:29 PM

wrto4556 said:

Noone's looking this guy up?We have the nut-no-pair hand...
Eh, it's low limit, there are better spots.

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 12:33 PM

wrto4556 said:

BetItAll33 said:

wrto4556 said:

Noone's looking this guy up?We have the nut-no-pair hand...
He called my 3 bet, then called my raise , then led out on the turn! You don't think he has a pair?
He may. But A-high is gold heads up. He could be pulling a stop n go with AJ, KQ. Lots of hands you have beat. Im not sure. But I would just call him down from the first bet he makes postflop. I really could be convinced otherwise...
Incidentally, the guy had aces. Other than "just" calling my 3 bet, he never really "stopped". I guess if he would've capped preflop, it would've saved me money.

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 12:33 PM

srblan said:

wrto4556 said:

Noone's looking this guy up?We have the nut-no-pair hand...
Eh, it's low limit, there are better spots.
Why does everyone say this!?Limit hold'em is about pushing man very small edges...not waiting for better spots.
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Posted 27 April 2005 - 12:38 PM

wrto4556 said:

srblan said:

wrto4556 said:

Noone's looking this guy up?We have the nut-no-pair hand...
Eh, it's low limit, there are better spots.
Why does everyone say this!?Limit hold'em is about pushing man very small edges...not waiting for better spots.
Are you sure that isn't no limit you're thinking of Wrto? /sw I think your idol Ed Miller would have something to say about pushing small edges in SMALL pots. Do you remember the hand example from sshe where you hold 92 on the bb and the flop comes 9 high. The small blind bets and Ed says FOLD. Tiny pot, move on.

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 12:45 PM

wrto4556 said:

srblan said:

wrto4556 said:

Noone's looking this guy up?We have the nut-no-pair hand...
Eh, it's low limit, there are better spots.
Why does everyone say this!?Limit hold'em is about pushing man very small edges...not waiting for better spots.
Low limit players are not very inclined to bluff. Generally, when they have a hand they bet. When they have a draw, sometimes they have a hand, sometimes not. Folding when you don't have a pair to save two bets is bigger than a small edge.

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 01:16 PM

BetItAll33 said:

Is there a different way?Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is BB with Ac, Kd. 8 folds, SB calls.Flop: (6 SB) 7h, 6d, 2h (2 players)SB bets, SB calls.Turn: (5 BB) 4c (2 players)SB bets, Hero folds.Final Pot: 6 BB
I would make him show down.

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Posted 28 April 2005 - 05:23 AM

Absolute said:

BetItAll33 said:

Is there a different way?Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is BB with Ac, Kd. 8 folds, SB calls.Flop: (6 SB) 7h, 6d, 2h (2 players)SB bets, SB calls.Turn: (5 BB) 4c (2 players)SB bets, Hero folds.Final Pot: 6 BB
I would make him show down.
why?

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Posted 28 April 2005 - 08:15 AM

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BetItAll33 said:

Is there a different way?Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is BB with Ac, Kd. 8 folds, SB calls.Flop: (6 SB) 7h, 6d, 2h (2 players)SB bets, SB calls.Turn: (5 BB) 4c (2 players)SB bets, Hero folds.Final Pot: 6 BB
I would make him show down.
I might do it once in a session just to prevent people from taking shots at me, but in a low limit game, it is too easy for someone to have a random pair that beats me.

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Posted 28 April 2005 - 08:20 AM

srblan said:

Absolute said:

BetItAll33 said:

Is there a different way?Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is BB with Ac, Kd. 8 folds, SB calls.Flop: (6 SB) 7h, 6d, 2h (2 players)SB bets, SB calls.Turn: (5 BB) 4c (2 players)SB bets, Hero folds.Final Pot: 6 BB
I would make him show down.
I might do it once in a session just to prevent people from taking shots at me, but in a low limit game, it is too easy for someone to have a random pair that beats me.
I'm playing in the lowest limit game on PARTY. There is no point in making a statement like this. People won't remember that I defended my blind with AK. It almost certainly won't affect their future play.Another problem is that there is about 75% player turnover every hour at a given table, if you can manage to keep a table together that long. Making him show down is stubborn and costs money.

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Posted 28 April 2005 - 09:42 AM

wrto4556 said:

BetItAll33 said:

wrto4556 said:

Noone's looking this guy up?We have the nut-no-pair hand...
He called my 3 bet, then called my raise , then led out on the turn! You don't think he has a pair?
He may. But A-high is gold heads up. He could be pulling a stop n go with AJ, KQ. Lots of hands you have beat. Im not sure. But I would just call him down from the first bet he makes postflop. I really could be convinced otherwise...





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