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#1 akishore

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 07:02 AM

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: akino1 is Button with K:spade:, K:heart:. 5 folds, BB calls.Flop: (4.50 SB) 9:heart:, 9:diamond:, 5:heart: (2 players)BB checks, akino1 bets, akino1 calls.Turn: (4.25 BB) J:spade: (2 players)BB bets, akino1 calls.River: (6.25 BB) 5:spade: (2 players)BB bets, akino1 calls.Final Pot: 8.25 BBi feel that this was either far too passive or far too stubborn. should i have three-bet the flop? or how about raised the turn? or should i have check-folded the turn? was going into check-call mode just terrible poker? (i think it was, but i'm wondering what the best alternative was.)aseem

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 07:04 AM

Three bet the flop and raise the turn :D

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 07:24 AM

akishore said:

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: akino1 is Button with K:spade:, K:heart:.    5 folds, BB calls.Flop: (4.50 SB) 9:heart:, 9:diamond:, 5:heart: (2 players)BB checks, akino1 bets, akino1 calls.Turn: (4.25 BB) J:spade: (2 players)BB bets, akino1 calls.River: (6.25 BB) 5:spade: (2 players)BB bets, akino1 calls.Final Pot: 8.25 BBi feel that this was either far too passive or far too stubborn. should i have three-bet the flop? or how about raised the turn? or should i have check-folded the turn? was going into check-call mode just terrible poker? (i think it was, but i'm wondering what the best alternative was.)aseem
3-bet flop, raise turn (although that's assuming he'd still bet into you).I doubt he has a 9 or a 5. Probably looking at a middle pp and he possibly put you on a missed flush draw.

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 08:27 AM

I agree...three bet and check/call down. Unfortunately for you, he's in the BB and only had to call one bet to see the flop, so any old A-9, K-9, 98, T9, are likely. Worse, the 5 on the river doubles the number of hands he could have that have you beat.

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 08:29 AM

somethin tells me he has A9, K9s....somejunk like that3-bet the flop and it much easier to tell

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 11:24 AM

my first thought is that he has a 5 and thinks he has your overcards beat. Which he does on the river. This is a really small pot, and while you have a big hand, I don't think it's worth it to get too involved in this pot. There is a good case for 3-betting the flop though, as you're either way ahead and way behind and this would give you more info.

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 11:26 AM

that flop is just begging to be threebet. do it and you won't regret it
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Posted 27 April 2005 - 11:34 AM

yeah, after the river, he turned over 4-4, and i felt absolutely retarded as i won the small pot.lesson learned.aseem

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 12:19 PM

Why not play it the same, and then raise the river?It's just a suggestion. My standard line would to be to either a) 3-bet the flop or B) raise the turn after calling the flop.
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Posted 27 April 2005 - 01:31 PM

akishore said:

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: akino1 is Button with K:spade:, K:heart:. 5 folds, BB calls.Flop: (4.50 SB) 9:heart:, 9:diamond:, 5:heart: (2 players)BB checks, akino1 bets, akino1 calls.Turn: (4.25 BB) J:spade: (2 players)BB bets, akino1 calls.River: (6.25 BB) 5:spade: (2 players)BB bets, akino1 calls.Final Pot: 8.25 BBi feel that this was either far too passive or far too stubborn. should i have three-bet the flop? or how about raised the turn? or should i have check-folded the turn? was going into check-call mode just terrible poker? (i think it was, but i'm wondering what the best alternative was.)aseem
why 3-bet the small street?call the flop raise and raise the turn

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 03:07 PM

Yea, generally I call the flop and raise the turn. If he 3-bets me, it depends on the player but most of the time I cap, and call a river bet or bet the river if checked to me. I might be a little too aggressive though.

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 03:12 PM

that is too aggressive. If he 3-bets the turn I call down.
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Posted 27 April 2005 - 03:59 PM

eh nm for some reason i read u had AK so if u saw my reply scratch it! :D




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