serge 904 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I have been watching a lot of games on NHL centre ice and have been watching the Wild a lot...This team continues to play their solid (boring ) defensive style of hockey that just wins games...they are 5-0 scoring just 11 goals and giving up a sick only FOUR goals against...I dont enjoy this brand of hockey as I think its the downfall of the NHL, however it seems to work for Lemaire. For the sake of the NHL here is to hoping the WIld arent too succesful this year...To those of you that enjoy 1-0 and 2-1 you maybe in the minorityI know the argument of good hockey is good defence, yes to a certain point...Not to the extent Lemaire plays it Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Uh... they have very good offensive players, and a very good goalie. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 15, 2007 Author Share Posted October 15, 2007 Uh... they have very good offensive players, and a very good goalie.Yes but Lemaire utilized them in a defensive way...They will win all their games 2-1, 3-2 and if they are lucky they may score 4 goals ...Its just a boring style of hockey. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Uh... they have very good offensive players, and two very good goalies.fixed it Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 So, I guess you're saying you'd rather watch your team lose 8-6 and 6-4 every night?DM, who's their backup? Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 15, 2007 Author Share Posted October 15, 2007 Well to a certain degree yes...I rather have my team score 5 goals a game and take my chances...Lemaire is a hockey killer Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 So, I guess you're saying you'd rather watch your team lose 8-6 and 6-4 every night?DM, who's their backup?Niklas Backstrom - starter for nowJosh Harding - backup for nowI predict Minny will trade Backstrom or let him walk as a FA when his contract is up and Harding will be the starter for many years. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 right, I forgot about Harding.lol @ serge. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 15, 2007 Author Share Posted October 15, 2007 look up Lemaire at wikipedia..Talks about him ruining hockey with his neutral zone trap Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 So, I guess you're saying you'd rather watch your team lose 8-6 and 6-4 every night?YES!Seriously, sometimes that style of hockey is so boring, and hard to watch. I guess if you are a die hard fan, you'll take boredom as long as it means wins. But for me, I watch hockey to be entertained, and while I watch Carolina and hope they win every game, when the game is boring, I feel cheated in terms of my time. Note, I mean slow, trap style hockey is boring, I do not mean low scoring hockey. There are good 1-0 games, and I hate some of the Leafs games where the score is 6-3 and both teams were terrible! Can you really say that if the game itself was boring, you'd accept it as long as your home team won? Link to post Share on other sites
nell789 0 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I've watched a couple of Wild games this year, and have enjoyed all of them. And I'm not a Minnesota fan. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 15, 2007 Author Share Posted October 15, 2007 YES!Seriously, sometimes that style of hockey is so boring, and hard to watch. I guess if you are a die hard fan, you'll take boredom as long as it means wins. But for me, I watch hockey to be entertained, and while I watch Carolina and hope they win every game, when the game is boring, I feel cheated in terms of my time. Note, I mean slow, trap style hockey is boring, I do not mean low scoring hockey. There are good 1-0 games, and I hate some of the Leafs games where the score is 6-3 and both teams were terrible! Can you really say that if the game itself was boring, you'd accept it as long as your home team won?After watching the Pens/Leafs game on Saturday..Or even the Montreal/LEafs the week before, how can anyone say thats not exciting hockey compared to a Minnesota Wild game...Not to generalize but a lot of teams in the West play this style....Just watch tonights Buffalo vs Leafs game and you guys will see excitement...Buffalo,Pittsburgh,Toronto...These are fun teams to watch...I dare say Ottawa as well(uggh)then watch Minnesota,Vancouver and San Jose play..While they play some good hockey, its a totally different style.. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I've watched one Wild game this year and enjoyed it very much. Link to post Share on other sites
rinswun 6 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 marian gaborik is my favourite play to watch in the whole nhl. plus minny's red sweater is one of my favourites. this team has so much going for it lol Link to post Share on other sites
Speed Limit 0 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Of course they are for real....see my pick for Western Conference winner in DM's pool Link to post Share on other sites
magnus72 0 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 If you watched Harding's shutout last night and thought it was boring then something is wrong with you. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 15, 2007 Author Share Posted October 15, 2007 If you watched Harding's shutout last night and thought it was boring then something is wrong with you.Actually last night they were outshot and outplayed but they managed to win...Keep arguing the fact that you prefer a 2-0 shutout to a 6-4 game..maybe if you say it enough you will actually believe it. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Just for the record, I was not talking about the Wild and their games in specific. The point made by Zach was would you rather your team lost games 8-6, or won games you considered boring, trap style by a score of 2-0. My answer was that I would rather my team play an exicting brand of hockey, instead of bore me and win. I realize the thread is about the Wild, but I wasnt referring to them specifically and their games this year. It was more the style of play vs the result.Maybe it also has to do with the fact that I am not a die hard, win at all costs kind of fan. I enjoy hockey played at its best.And yes, I do enjoy some/many Wild games, but I have also seen my share of them sitting back on leads. The difference between them and a NJ style trap is that the Wild are a very fast team and much of their counter attack is built on speed, from what I can tell. So yes, I too enjoy their games. But if you watched all 82 Wild games last year, I would venture you saw quite a few games in which they took a lead and sat on it. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 15, 2007 Author Share Posted October 15, 2007 ok here is my point...The average Nascar watching fan in the US...Are they most likely to enjoy a 2-0 Minnesota Wild game...or a 6-4 Leafs vs Pens tilt????Are they going to enjoy Crosby vs Sundin end to end action or a Josh Harding shutout????Why doesnt soccer work in the US..they have been trying for years, because there is no scoring!!!!For the sake of the game we need teams like Pittsburgh and Toronto to succeed...Even Ottawa plays an exciting style of game...I wont argue with Jacques Lemaire as his system seems to work..but like I said to showcase the game you need more GOALS> Link to post Share on other sites
nell789 0 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 ok here is my point...The average Nascar watching fan in the US...Are they most likely to enjoy a 2-0 Minnesota Wild game...or a 6-4 Leafs vs Pens tilt????Are they going to enjoy Crosby vs Sundin end to end action or a Josh Harding shutout????Why doesnt soccer work in the US..they have been trying for years, because there is no scoring!!!!For the sake of the game we need teams like Pittsburgh and Toronto to succeed...Even Ottawa plays an exciting style of game...I wont argue with Jacques Lemaire as his system seems to work..but like I said to showcase the game you need more GOALS>Actually a Nascar fan would enjoy a 0-0 game, as they must already be a glutton for monotony. Link to post Share on other sites
rinswun 6 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 when new jersey won the cup in 2000 - the supposed height of their trap system - they scored the 8th most goals in the league. hopefully zach parise and travis zajac will take us back to those high scoring games. playing the thrashers every night would be nice too Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 15, 2007 Author Share Posted October 15, 2007 yeah they cost me my game on Saturday night buy allowing all those goals.. Link to post Share on other sites
WestcoastCanuck 0 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 When the Wild first came into the NHL, it was true they were boring as hell. Lemaire is such a good coach that he can take teams with weak talent (and believe me those early Wild teams were weak) and make them competitive through defense alone.Now, with a pretty deep talent base, I find the Wild exciting. Thy don't run and gun, but they don't just hang back trapping. They are extremely good defensively (not just by playing the trap, but just by good coverage in their own end and team speed), but they now have a very potent offense. They get crapped on because of their reputation and continued good defense, but I really don't think their defensive play has ever been at the expense of offense. In the early years, their teams were so thin up front that they wouldn't have scored more, even if they played a completely wide open game. Now, they do score but still keep pucks out. You can't fault a team for being good. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 The average Nascar fan would probably appreciate corporation logos covering jerseys and maybe a blade on both ends of the stick. Maybe they'd like benches without gates but rather an area where you skate in and out like a pit area. How about no whistles? Just enclose the ice surface with a giant acrylic bubble like those tabletop hockey games you find in arcades. Wow, there's so much we could do to meet the approval of the average Nascar fan. Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Serge, when was the last time you watched the Wild play a game from start to finish? Link to post Share on other sites
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