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#21 gary21212121

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 10:06 AM

hang in there simo.... sng are all about the volume, and with time the variance will equal out...now post some more strat hands so wezz can learn a lil bit

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 10:09 AM

View Postgary21212121, on Tuesday, October 9th, 2007, 7:06 PM, said:

hang in there simo.... sng are all about the volume, and with time the variance will equal out...now post some more strat hands so wezz can learn a lil bit
Most of the debateable ones are the borderline "I have 7bb, should I shove 89o from the CO?" type hands.I'll see if I can find any interesting hands.

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 10:21 AM

View Postsimo_8ball, on Tuesday, October 9th, 2007, 11:09 AM, said:

Most of the debateable ones are the borderline "I have 7bb, should I shove 89o from the CO?" type hands.I'll see if I can find any interesting hands.
Most of the natural beauty of the Sit N Go *is* the fact that there are not a lot of decisions to be made that are strat-worthy.
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 02:19 PM

View Postsimo_8ball, on Tuesday, October 9th, 2007, 12:57 PM, said:

It's nice when hands work exactly as you expect them to.Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem TournamentBlinds: t25/t504 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: t2935Button: t2910SB: t650Hero: t2505Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with J :icon_dance: T :D 2 folds, SB calls t25 (pot was t75), Hero checks.Flop: 9 :D A :D T :D (t100, 2 players)SB checks, Hero checks.Turn: 9 :) (t100, 2 players)SB is all-in t600, Hero calls t600 (pot was t700).River: 4 :) (t1300, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t1300)Results:Final pot: t1300SB showed Kc 6hHero showed Jc TdI :) being passive.
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 04:37 PM

Holy crap, maybe this thread can become our donkfest support group. Card dead in this $1.20 STT until this hand:PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)BB (t3060)UTG (t4125)Hero (t1225)CO (t650)Button (t1615)SB (t2825)Preflop: Hero is MP with APosted Image, APosted Image. UTG calls t100, Hero raises to t300, 4 folds, UTG calls t200.Flop: (t750) JPosted Image, 4Posted Image, KPosted Image (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets t925 (All-In), UTG calls t925.Turn: (t2600) QPosted Image (2 players, 1 all-in)River: (t2600) KPosted Image (2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: t2600Results:UTG has 9s Ks (three of a kind, kings). Hero has Ad Ah (two pair, aces and kings). Outcome: UTG wins t2600.
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 05:04 PM

Holy mother of hell, someone please put an end to this...PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)SB (t3140)BB (t5111)Hero (t5249)Preflop: Hero is Button with 9Posted Image, 9Posted Image. Hero raises to t500, 1 fold, BB raises to t1600, Hero raises to t5249, BB calls t3511 (All-In).Flop: (t10460) 6Posted Image, JPosted Image, 7Posted Image (2 players, 1 all-in)Turn: (t10460) APosted Image (2 players, 1 all-in)River: (t10460) 5Posted Image (2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: t10322Results in white below:BB has 7h 7c (three of a kind, sevens). Hero has 9c 9d (one pair, nines). Outcome: BB wins t10322. Hero wins t138.
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 05:08 PM

Don't play Turbos man..Those things are such a crap shoot..Play a standard sng and variance won't be as bad
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 05:19 PM

I am playing standard, man, these are regular $1.20 STTs! Unless you weren't talking to me...
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 05:26 PM

View Postjmbreslin, on Tuesday, October 9th, 2007, 5:19 PM, said:

I am playing standard, man, these are regular $1.20 STTs! Unless you weren't talking to me...
Yeah I was talking to Simo, I only read the first page
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 06:53 PM

Great quote from Kristy Gazes while playing with her in the $26 HORSEonysworld: please tell how to play razzKristy Gazes: nobody really knows

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 07:23 PM

Turbo's are higher variance, but in the end it doesn't really make a major difference (i think). The additional $/hr makes it advantageous for me personally.
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Posted 10 October 2007 - 02:44 AM

3rd time in the last 2 weeks I've made it to the final 2 tables of the O8B $1.10 donkfest...Out in 12th.. Out in 13th.. and tonight.. Out in 15th... I'm never FT'ing this MF'er, I swear to gawd. :icon_wall:AA35 and A234 both go down to the most modest of holding AIPF to seal the f'n deal.LFT
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Posted 10 October 2007 - 02:32 PM

I achieved a 18% ROI on $10-$50 SNGs over about 500 games, about 1.5yrs agoHaven't played them very seriously since but it seems the quality of competition is alot higher than it used be. From some responses, people think there still lots of fish. Is it a different network you play on? I think it's hard to achieve an ROI above 5% at decent buy in SNGs ($20+). Any comments?
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Posted 10 October 2007 - 03:15 PM

View PostJam-Fly, on Wednesday, October 10th, 2007, 11:32 PM, said:

I achieved a 18% ROI on $10-$50 SNGs over about 500 games, about 1.5yrs agoHaven't played them very seriously since but it seems the quality of competition is alot higher than it used be. From some responses, people think there still lots of fish. Is it a different network you play on? I think it's hard to achieve an ROI above 5% at decent buy in SNGs ($20+). Any comments?
In the turbos the variance is insanely high. You are forced to win several 60/40s or 50/50s or even 40/60s to win in general. By the bubble, the blinds are usually 100/200 at least, and you are often shoving Q8o UTG because you have 5xbb.I think that it's possible to get around 8% ROI in the turbos if you play very well.The problem with working it out is that it's easy to go 10 in a row without cashing, then get 1-1-3-2-1 in your next 5. You need such a huge sample that it's difficult to get anywhere realistic off a sample of less than 1k.In the normal speed games, I think 15% is still possible on the right sites at the right times, but generally 10% would be pretty much crushing them.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 03:33 PM

View Postsimo_8ball, on Wednesday, October 10th, 2007, 3:15 PM, said:

In the turbos the variance is insanely high. You are forced to win several 60/40s or 50/50s or even 40/60s to win in general. By the bubble, the blinds are usually 100/200 at least, and you are often shoving Q8o UTG because you have 5xbb.I think that it's possible to get around 8% ROI in the turbos if you play very well.The problem with working it out is that it's easy to go 10 in a row without cashing, then get 1-1-3-2-1 in your next 5. You need such a huge sample that it's difficult to get anywhere realistic off a sample of less than 1k.In the normal speed games, I think 15% is still possible on the right sites at the right times, but generally 10% would be pretty much crushing them.
How many BI do you reckon should be in your BR to play them?
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Posted 10 October 2007 - 03:40 PM

View PostJam-Fly, on Thursday, October 11th, 2007, 12:33 AM, said:

How many BI do you reckon should be in your BR to play them?
For turbos I think at least 30 if you don't want to move down at all, although I had a $200 downswing playing $11 turbos a while back, and I was playing good.For normal speed games I'd say about 20+.If you're willing to move up/down liberally then 15-20 will do, but you will find yourself shooting up and down limits very regularly.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 04:25 PM

Here's another one to add to my collection. This is quickly turning into my own personal bad beat forum...PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)BB (t1780)UTG (t1100)MP1 (t1160)Hero (t1360)CO (t3715)Button (t2255)SB (t2130)Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Posted Image, Posted Image. 2 folds, Hero raises to t150, CO calls t150, 3 folds.Flop: (t375) Posted Image, Posted Image, Posted Image (2 players)Hero bets t200, CO raises to t400, Hero calls t200.Turn: (t1175) Posted Image (2 players)Hero bets t300, CO raises to t600, Hero raises to t810, CO calls t210.River: (t2795) Posted Image (2 players)Final Pot: t2795Results:Hero has Qh As (straight, ace high). CO has Td Kh (full house, kings full of tens). Outcome: CO wins t2795.This may be my worst beat ever. I ran the numbers and I was a 90% favorite on the turn...
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Posted 11 October 2007 - 02:04 PM

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 02:45 PM

Umm, what do you mean?
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Posted 11 October 2007 - 04:28 PM

View Postjmbreslin, on Thursday, October 11th, 2007, 2:45 PM, said:

Umm, what do you mean?
Nothing, just found the Ks icon funny. I'm easily amused.Congrats on the 1k post btw
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