Big Draw Really Over 100bb Deep

[No_Neck 0]

Poker StarsNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.506 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $15.15UTG+1: $107.80CO: $59.40Button: $87.75Hero: $125.80BB: $48.75Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with A 2 UTG calls, 2 folds, Button raises to $1, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG calls.Flop: Q J T ($3.5, 3 players)Hero checks, UTG bets $1, Button raises to $4, Hero raises to $17.5, UTG folds, Button raises to $31Villian is an aggro donkey like 70/40/3 or something like that

[Naismith 0]

Once you've gotten to this point, shovel shovel shovel.

[No_Neck 0]

Once you've gotten to this point, shovel shovel shovel.

you just call the buttons raise to $4?

[NoBBiR 0]

Once you've gotten to this point, shovel shovel shovel.

At this point, I agree. He doesn't necessarily have the nuts at this point and might not put in his last $50 if you shove if he has say, TTP or 89.

you just call the buttons raise to $4?

Just call the raise to $4 for the most part. It advertises your hand, but you don't get in these gay situations.

[Naismith 0]

you just call the buttons raise to $4?

Not necessarily.I'm just saying if I played it as such to this point, I'm getting it all gassed.

[Acid_Knight 2]

I'd have just called on the flop. Your draws are totally transparent and aren't likely to get paid if you hit.That said, if you think you have FE, go for it and shovel.

[Naismith 0]

I'd have just called on the flop. Your draws are totally transparent and aren't likely to get paid if you hit.That said, if you think you have FE, go for it and shovel.

At this point, FE is just bonus. We likely have 11 outs minimum to the nutzzzzzzz.

[Acid_Knight 2]

At this point, FE is just bonus. We likely have 11 outs minimum to the nutzzzzzzz.

Wouldn't it suck if the villain shows up with KQss?

[Naismith 0]

Wouldn't it suck if the villain shows up with KQss?

We just suckout if he has KQss.

[whiterice714 0]

We just suckout if he has KQss.

yeahthis game's easy=]

[Roberts2003 0]

i would usually just call the flop raise unless you think you have a tight enough image to get him to fold. personally, i usually have such a shitty image that this kind of play would rarely work.

[Acid_Knight 2]

i would usually just call the flop raise unless you think you have a tight enough image to get him to fold. personally, i usually have such a shitty image that this kind of play would rarely work.

Shitty image to get people to fold, amazingly awesome image to get people to stack off with 1 pair. There's always a bright side you know.

[Acid_Knight 2]

We just suckout if he has KQss.

I have so much to learn from you.

[No_Neck 0]

Wouldn't it suck if the villain shows up with AKo?

yeah it would... and he did, but he is noooo match for riverstars I think I should have just called the $4.

[Acid_Knight 2]

yeah it would... and he did, but he is noooo match for riverstars I think I should have just called the $4.

If he has KQss, we're a 65% to 34% dog and we tie 1% of the time.If he has AKo with no spade, we're gonna win 36.4% to his 56.7% and tie 7% of the time.If he has AK with one spade, which is the worst case, we're only gonna win 32.6% to his 56.77% and tie 10.6%.So, AKo with no spade is actually better for him to have than KQss as far as we're concerned.

[krup24 0]

I think I should have just called the $4.

results oriented thinking, i like the shove and there is FE all be it small but wait maybe thats results oriented thinking as well

[Acid_Knight 2]

results oriented thinking, i like the shove and there is FE all be it small but wait maybe thats results oriented thinking as well

With that many bets and raises back and forth, the Villain almost always has one of the following few hands that he'll never fold:Combo drawTwo PairSetStraightObv it's results oriented because we see that he's reraising after we 3-betthe flop, but you never have FE here if you shove.

[Gene zzz 0]

Call the 31 your chances of the flush are greater then his stack; seeing the turn for that little is great he is nearly allout and you have plenty of earned coverage to use nothing to fear in taking these odds all the other hands don't matter because you can get a check from him on the next round or have the flush and break him. You make the flush enough not to have to worry over the board pairing when you can see card for card the next two rounds ;if a card dups and he bet out you can fold. Him having 2 pair now or three of a kind leave you with outs against you but him drawing the same and the many other hands he may have give you an easy call the odds he is making for himself in those cases are also good enough for you to continue play. Going all in is not correct he won't fold enough and if he is bluffing he put in to many chips already.

[Roberts2003 0]

Shitty image to get people to fold, amazingly awesome image to get people to stack off with 1 pair. There's always a bright side you know.

hahaha yes this is true as well.

[Acid_Knight 2]

Call the 31 your chances of the flush are greater then his stack; seeing the turn for that little is great he is nearly allout and you have plenty of earned coverage to use nothing to fear in taking these odds all the other hands don't matter because you can get a check from him on the next round or have the flush and break him. You make the flush enough not to have to worry over the board pairing when you can see card for card the next two rounds ;if a card dups and he bet out you can fold. Him having 2 pair now or three of a kind leave you with outs against you but him drawing the same and the many other hands he may have give you an easy call the odds he is making for himself in those cases are also good enough for you to continue play. Going all in is not correct he won't fold enough and if he is bluffing he put in to many chips already.

zach i swear to god youd ban me if i posted stuff like this lacking punctuation not making sense who says periods and commas and everything. are important cause you can just stick them in? where ever and let everyone else sort it out I really/ think this guy has got some kind of mental issues or learn disablety and i shud start speling bad now cuz he does that too a little.I'm a bad person.