mkeller3086 0 Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 second hand, no readsi know this seems standard but I want everyone's idea of his range when he 3bets preflop and pots this flopFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)saw flop|saw showdownBB ($40.35)UTG ($33.15)MP ($28.25)CO ($28.10)Button ($37.70)Hero ($25.35)Preflop: Hero is SB with , . 1 fold, MP calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, BB raises to $3.95, MP folds, Hero calls $2.55.Flop: ($8) , , (2 players)Hero checks, BB bets $7.65, Hero raises to $21.65 (All-In) Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 imo standard after preflop actioni'm guessing you were disguising hand strength a lil with the smooth call preflop and you c/r the flop which was tastyi like 100% of your action here Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 love the whole thing. Link to post Share on other sites
danc1984 0 Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Yeah i think the whole thing is really standard. His range after he pots the flop I would say is like TT+ and prob AK/AQ. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Yeah i think the whole thing is really standard. His range after he pots the flop I would say is like TT+ and prob AK/AQ.I would say in a BvB battle his range is like 55+ and tons of over cards. Link to post Share on other sites
mkeller3086 0 Posted October 5, 2007 Author Share Posted October 5, 2007 imo standard after preflop actioni'm guessing you were disguising hand strength a lil with the smooth call preflop and you c/r the flop which was tastyi like 100% of your action hereits rare that i 4-bet queens whether i'm in or out of position.i just don't find it to be a good play, you are announcing that you have a big pair and you are also opening yourself up to a really tough spot when you offer your opponent the chance to reraise again, which is never a +EV spot imo Link to post Share on other sites
hockey fan 0 Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 love the whole thing. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 its rare that i 4-bet queens whether i'm in or out of position.i just don't find it to be a good play, you are announcing that you have a big pair and you are also opening yourself up to a really tough spot when you offer your opponent the chance to reraise again, which is never a +EV spot imoit all depends how deep you are IMHO Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 its rare that i 4-bet queens whether i'm in or out of position.i just don't find it to be a good play, you are announcing that you have a big pair and you are also opening yourself up to a really tough spot when you offer your opponent the chance to reraise again, which is never a +EV spot imoYou don't announce that you have a big pair if you're willing to 3 or 4 bet with other hands as well.And Neck is right, it does depend how deep you are. Link to post Share on other sites
mkeller3086 0 Posted October 5, 2007 Author Share Posted October 5, 2007 You don't announce that you have a big pair if you're willing to 3 or 4 bet with other hands as well.And Neck is right, it does depend how deep you are.what types of hands or is this too general of a question to really give a good response?i do think with 100BB stacks a 4 bet is not a very good play. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 what types of hands or is this too general of a question to really give a good response?i do think with 100BB stacks a 4 bet is not a very good play.AK, AQ, TT+ depends on what the villian is going to three bet with. I generally agree with you in low stakes passive games that a 4 bet tends to announce you have AA or KK, or at least it does for most players so most players assume you have AA or KK.I have had a lot of success making people crazy by 3 and 4 betting them.I had a guy call $80 (in a $50 NL game) preflop with JJ for example Link to post Share on other sites
danc1984 0 Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 I would say in a BvB battle his range is like 55+ and tons of over cards.You don't think MP2 calling reduces his range a little? Unless he is very aggressive I still don't think he has a super-wide range here. Link to post Share on other sites
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