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[Cappy37]

Been playing a ton of the $3.40 and $1.75 mixed-game SNGs lately, mainly O8B, HORSE, and Razz...

I'd post this in tourney strat, but it's a stud8 question so I figured I'd have better luck here:

Don't have the hand history, but it's a generic question anyways..

In a Split pot game nearing the money bubble, how do you play a made low with some good/monster draws to scoop, when a player in the hand is all in?

I was in a 8-man Horse SNG last night where there was 5 players left, and 3 places pay. I'm second in chips and Mr. 9 (not real name) is the chipleader and quite donktastic.

I had a (A3)6 of hearts, bring in (xx)4 was raised to 400 by a Mr. 9 with, of course, a (xx)9 (I swear, I'm not making this up), so I re-raised to (hopefully) ditch the bring in who would be the only low threat to me in the hand and isolate against Mr. 9.

Bring in (who was shorter than re-raise) goes all-in, and Mr. 9 calls my raise. I pick up the 4 of hearts on 4th and check behind(no high hand, player all-in) when Mr .9 catches a Q for (xx)9Q and checks to me. Bring in scores a 9 for (xx)49. Fifth gives me a 7 of diamonds for (A3)647 to give me a 4-fllush, gutshot straight, and a low that is, barring the bring in slowplaying PF 2 cards below an 8, unbeatable. I have a made 76 low and 1/4 of the deck (at least, an ace probably does it, too) for a scoop, with 2 cards to come...

My question: Should I be betting out here? Do I actually need Mr. 9 to "catch up"? Should I be checking down until I make a high? What's ettiquete/strategy here?

I ended up having him bet into me on each street, so I kept re-raising him (nothing to lose, obv) and won the pot when I paired my 7 on 7th street (he had pocket dueces in the hole.. el-oh-el). The all-in player made jacks, so I split the puny main pot with him, and practically felted Mr. 9.

My results are good here, but I was wondering how I should approach this in general. Do you check till you make a high if no one else is threatening your low, or is it ok to let loose with both barrells on a made low + high draw?

[biff_goods]

considering what cards hit their boards on later streets, I don't see why you wouldn't build a pot that you are almost guaranteed half of and have a draw to scoop.

[Frez]

Ya, I'm willing to throw a lot of chips in when I'm sure I'm good for half and have great draws for the other. Especially in a tournament - I'm not so big on it in ring games where you can end up losing money when you split the pot - less the rake.

[Cappy37]

Well, I had a dream scenario: I was freerolling and involved in with the chip leader, who was an extremely weak player..

I guess this is more of an equity question: Both me and CL have a fairly healthy lead with 5 left and 3 pay. I don't have a made high at all here.. Is freerolling on a big stack worth potentially not knocking out a shortie when we are one off the money bubble, with blinds rising? Obviously I'm in a good spot here, my question is more of an ettiquete/equity spot: Should I be betting dry-side here or is it proper to wait until I've made a high to increase my chances of cashing?

Villain did all the betting for me, so I started re-raising him (obviously). But he's gotta know 0 about equity, tangling with the other big stack, and SNG strategy, so I'm not going to base the proper play off of his action. The guy built me up huge defending blinds in Razz and playing any-four cards in O8B, I'm looking to *you* guys for my line here, not using his genius to justify me

[Danny Dingleberry]

i'm happy to check it down with just the low and the massive draw for equity reasons. obviously if I made my hand I would have to try and value it. if I knew the short stack was going then it wouldn't bother me. but if a player wants to take a stab at the pot or bet at it when I'm obviously checking a hand down for equity when in other situations I would bet.. then I'd just keep raising and raising him... that's generally my rule in all forms of tourney poker though. so i'd basically do exactly what you did in that situation.