BigLebowski 0 Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 First thing, please tell me how bad that flop raise is. Do we fire another shell and if so, how much?PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)SB ($147.95)Hero ($100.60)UTG ($124.50)MP ($99.85)Button ($53.25)Preflop: Hero is BB with 3 , 2 , 4 , 4 . UTG raises to $3, 1 fold, Button calls $3, SB calls $2.50, Hero calls $2.Flop: ($12) 2 , 2 , 4 (4 players)SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $3, Button calls $3, SB folds, Hero raises to $7, UTG calls $4, Button folds.Turn: ($29) T (2 players)Hero bets $11, UTG calls $11.River: ($51) Q (2 players)Hero bets ??? Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Isn't this called POT limit omaha for a reason? Get $ in. With the weak ass $3 bet and the button calling on the flop, there's $18 in the pot -- raise it to $20 I say and see who sticks around. As played, on the flop, you know he's got some kind of hand that he likes, and as long as it isn't exactly TT, you're WAY ahead. He's called a check/raise on the flop, so unless he's mildly retarded, he knows you have a hand too. POT THAT SHIZZ, all day. You're letting him draw cheap. I still pot the river too, if we get there. If he caught a 2 outer to his TT or QQ, then as someone said in another thread, BBFIDTS, but at least make him pay to chase you. People are idiots. There's no way they give you credit for calling a raise preflop with any hand that contains 44. Make them pay for their assumption. In fact, I might even donkbet 1/2 pot in to them on the flop and pray that naked AA raises me. Link to post Share on other sites
jburn812 0 Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Why would you not fire on the river? What could you honestly be scared of? I'd probably raise to at least 9 on that flop.... However try to get as much as you can into that pot without him folding to maximize equity.... If he does wake up with a better hand than you Bad beats happen.... If we play scared here then were never going to make any money playing PLO. Link to post Share on other sites
BudBundy 0 Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 PF is marginal.Raise 10 on flop. He probably won't put you on a deuce.If he calls that flop , i may go for a C/R on turn. Even if he checks behind on turn , it increases our chance to get paid by an overpair on river. But most of the time i ll just lead out like 15$.Definitely bet river. You have to pay off Queens or Tens here. Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 PF is marginal.Raise 10 on flop. He probably won't put you on a deuce.? You know we flopped 4's full, yes? He certainly won't put us on that. Link to post Share on other sites
BudBundy 0 Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 ? You know we flopped 4's full, yes? He certainly won't put us on that.Yeah he won't put us anything related to that flop , that's why i am raising to 10$. He will think we are attacking his weak ass flop bet and hopefully overplay and overpair. Link to post Share on other sites
BigLebowski 0 Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 Well, in this particular hand I ended up playing it about as good as possible....i think. Without looking it up I bet roughly $25 on the river and got paid by JJ. I think IN THIS INSTANCE if i show any more aggression on pretty much any street I lose JJ. However, if he had AA or even KK I probably could have taken them for a good bit more on every street. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 In these situations you have to just milk each street for a reasonable value bet. Usually I'll bet about 1/3 to 1/2 pot on each street.Occasionally you may lose some value from something like A2xx (although you may get a raise from that holding), but usually you will be against an overpair or straight draw curious enough to pay you off. Link to post Share on other sites
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