nhlfan 0 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 1/2 NL live, sitting MP with $280 from $300, I limp with 5-6 suited, limped around, 4 players, 1 shorts stack ($80?) and one large stack ($900?). Flop comes 3-4-7 / 3 suited). Checked to me, I bet 20 into 8, short stack (BB) calls and big stack (UTG) calls. Turn is a 4, two spades on the board. BB small stack bets 20, UTG raises to 80, what do you do here? Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 some 1/2 players are bad enough that they're drawig to 2 outs here... some aren't, and yo0u're drawing dead. Reads on players. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 1/2 NL live, sitting MP with $280 from $300, I limp with 5-6 suited, limped around, 4 players, 1 shorts stack ($80?) and one large stack ($900?). Flop comes 3-4-7 / 3 suited). Checked to me, I bet 20 into 8, short stack (BB) calls and big stack (UTG) calls. Turn is a 4, two spades on the board. BB small stack bets 20, UTG raises to 80, what do you do here?Re-raise all in. You want to charge trips and the flush to draw to their hands. Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Reads and prior history would be nice.Against complete unknowns playing 1/2 live, I would shove my life away. Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 some 1/2 players are bad enough that they're drawig to 2 outs here... some aren't, and yo0u're drawing dead. Reads on players.You mean 4 outs?I check - call down from here barring another 4, 7 or 3 on the river.Part of this is for pot control, the other part is to allow others to come along for the ride. Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 You mean 4 outs?no, I mean 2. Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 no, I mean 2.A pair has 4 outsTrips have 10 outsWhat has 2 outs? Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 A pair has 4 outsTrips have 10 outsWhat has 2 outs?Not to divert from the OP, but there's two players in the pot. digest that and then pm me if you still want to. it's stupid to keep this in the thread. Link to post Share on other sites
nhlfan 0 Posted September 21, 2007 Author Share Posted September 21, 2007 I ended up pushing and the big stack had flopped a set of 7's and turned the boat. I guess in hindsight the money was all going to get in there no matter what, oh well, that's how my month's been going. Link to post Share on other sites
Gene zzz 0 Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 I ended up pushing and the big stack had flopped a set of 7's and turned the boat. I guess in hindsight the money was all going to get in there no matter what, oh well, that's how my month's been going. Yet pushing is wrong here to max expectation you should have just bet enough to get a call because the chances he will call an all in isn't as good as he will call down for more and more also the other player will follow along; this option also would have saved you money. slow play nuts if they are raiseing why not? Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Yet pushing is wrong here to max expectation you should have just bet enough to get a call because the chances he will call an all in isn't as good as he will call down for more and more also the other player will follow along; this option also would have saved you money. slow play nuts if they are raiseing why not?There was a bet of 30 and a raise to 80, not shoving is criminal. Not only are you almost assured to get a call, we are very short after putting in the 80. What should we do, minraise and keep a 1/4 a buyin behind for cab fair? Link to post Share on other sites
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