koolromeo 0 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 hero has $500everyone else has me covereda loose player raises to $20 i call with ad-qda solid player in late positon calls. he has only shown down quality handsthe big blind callsAs kh 4s is the flopbb checkspreflop raiser c bets $60 ( he cbets @ least 75% of the time) i consider raising, but i'm a bit leery of the solid player behind me.solid player smooth calls. the bb check raises all in immediatetly for $800. he has played a lot of hands, but never check raised, and never went all in.preflop raiser foldsthere's about $750 in the pot that hero can win for a $420 call.hero? Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 I think this is a fold, considering the bets and calls before this guy it's not ridiculous for him to think someone is on a draw. I think the lower parts of his range if he's reasonable is combo spade draw, Kxss, Q10/J10ss, then stuff that crushes you - set/2pair. The caller behind you likely has a draw or a hand like AQ/AJ as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 InstafoldThis is a safe board with reasonable expectation that someone will bet behind it from BB's point of view. There are 0 draws you could put the villain on. The only thing you're beating is a middle pair bluff and an overplayed A-J/ A-10 Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 instafold, this is a hand you need to get away from. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 hero has $500everyone else has me covereda loose player raises to $20 i call with ad-qda solid player in late positon calls. he has only shown down quality handsthe big blind callsAs kh 4s is the flopbb checkspreflop raiser c bets $60 ( he cbets @ least 75% of the time) i consider raising, but i'm a bit leery of the solid player behind me.solid player smooth calls. the bb check raises all in immediatetly for $800. he has played a lot of hands, but never check raised, and never went all in.preflop raiser foldsthere's about $750 in the pot that hero can win for a $420 call.hero?OK, fold. Seriously. This is always a set or AK. You have few outs here. Link to post Share on other sites
koolromeo 0 Posted September 17, 2007 Author Share Posted September 17, 2007 OK, fold. Seriously. This is always a set or AK. You have few outs here.what if i changed the image of the checkraiser to a loose maniac? Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 what if i changed the image of the checkraiser to a loose maniac?Then I change my opinion to A4 and still fold. Link to post Share on other sites
bstark94 0 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Get out fast. I mean real fast, and be glad you didn't raise. I hate AQ on a board like this. Especially with no redraws. Link to post Share on other sites
koolromeo 0 Posted September 17, 2007 Author Share Posted September 17, 2007 i folded as did everyone else. the solid player behind me had A J. the guy that went all in showed one card, an Ace. he then went on to bluff at about 30% of the pots and play top pair the same way. i never like AQ in a spot like that, but after watching him donk it up for a few hours, i wonder whether i should have called. Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 If you're not folding the best hand occasionally, you're calling too much anyway. He was probably just setting up a stupid table image. I'm willing to say he had A4 more than 80% of the time. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 I'm willing to say he had A4 more than 80% of the time. Link to post Share on other sites
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