Citizen Erased 0 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Hero's been at the table for about 50 hands and is running at 25/ 2 (1.5 PFA), having only shown down a flopped nut flush and has been somewhat card dead.Villain's running at 22/ 10 (8 PFA) through just 85 hands, and has been very quiet since Hero sat down, with his stack being $40 upon Hero's arrival, and $39 at the time of this hand.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)UTG ($39.45)UTG+1 ($83.50)MP1 ($7.75)MP2 ($32.55)Hero ($28.10)CO ($15.55)Button ($25.95)SB ($24.10)BB ($28.80)Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A, K. UTG raises to $0.85, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.85, 4 folds.Flop: ($2.05) 7, K, 3(2 players)UTG bets $1.5, Hero raises to $4, UTG calls $2.50.Turn: ($10.05) T(2 players)UTG bets $7, Hero $7River: ($24.05) A(2 players)UTG bets $16, and is All-In, Hero ???How often is this a missed flush/ frustrated KQ?n.b: I wrote the river based on memory, so it's not 100% accurate. Link to post Share on other sites
Metternich 0 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 think this is pretty much either a set or a weaker king. I would keep calling here, think its a king way more often. Link to post Share on other sites
nomad_monad 0 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 reraise preflop - hand plays a lot differentlyas played i call down. with an agg factor of 8 he's often donkbetting the turn with a wide range just to keep you from taking a free card. plus there are a lot of river cards that could freeze the action and get you a free showdown. Link to post Share on other sites
bstark94 0 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Without reads, I call the turn. Call the river. I probably don't raise the flop either. I like pot-control with TPTK, that way you're decisions are easier. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Hero's been at the table for about 50 hands and is running at 25/ 2 (1.5 PFA), having only shown down a flopped nut flush and has been somewhat card dead.Villain's running at 22/ 10 (8 PFA) through just 85 hands, and has been very quiet since Hero sat down, with his stack being $40 upon Hero's arrival, and $39 at the time of this hand.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)UTG ($39.45)UTG+1 ($83.50)MP1 ($7.75)MP2 ($32.55)Hero ($28.10)CO ($15.55)Button ($25.95)SB ($24.10)BB ($28.80)Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A, K. UTG raises to $0.85, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.85, 4 folds.Flop: ($2.05) 7, K, 3(2 players)UTG bets $1.5, Hero raises to $4, UTG calls $2.50.Turn: ($10.05) T(2 players)UTG bets $7, Hero ???Might as well push the turn. This looks like a flush draw blocker bet. Link to post Share on other sites
Dictius 0 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 think this is pretty much either a set or a weaker king. I would keep calling here, think its a king way more often.Agreed, I think this is KQ. Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Erased 0 Posted September 18, 2007 Author Share Posted September 18, 2007 I did put him and KQ, but just called, waiting to see what the river brought.Added river to OP, and action.Is this an InstaCall of a missed flush? Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 I don't think this is a set unless he really wanted to risk a spade peeling off on the turn and then the lead out on the turn is just odd for a set....I see several hands playing this way. Q-J spades, K-10, Krablar, 10-10, and maybe K-Q/K-J from a bad opponent... and possibly A-K as well on a rarity.Adding the min 10% of busted draws...You're ahead here way more often than not. You have to call this. Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Erased 0 Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share Posted September 19, 2007 RESULTS:Hero calls $16...Villain shows A A and won with a Set of Aces...which kinda sucked. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 RESULTS:Hero calls $16...Villain shows A A and won with a Set of Aces...which kinda sucked.You did nothing wrong there. Link to post Share on other sites
whatgreatis 0 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 RESULTS:Hero calls $16...Villain shows A A and won with a Set of Aces...which kinda sucked.I think if you reraise preflop you'd have a better idea that he has aces. He's most likely going to reraise your raise and after that you can put him on QQ KK AA since those are the only hands that really do that. After the flop brings a K and he gives significant action you might be able to lay it down, or at least have a better idea of where your at in the hand.Reraise this preflop and it'll play out a lot different. Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Reraise this preflop and it'll play out a lot different.Except for folding to a reraise preflop, I can't see how this hand plays differently by reraising. Reraising shortens stacks and creates less wiggle room. We get away from this flop when we've got over 3 streets worth of bets, not when we've squeezed our action into the flop. You reraise, he smooth calls and this flop comes, you get C/Red the action goes like:Bet.08 reraise to 3, callFlop(6)Check, Bet 6, reraise 25 and you're getting 2:1 with TPTK in what could be a likely chop or a draw. Link to post Share on other sites
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