A Few Hands From A Td Newb

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I couldn't make the converter in the stickied thread work, but I've cleaned up the HH as best as I could. I'm a super-beginner at this game, only played a handful of $1 SNGs, never cash game TD until yesterday. Not sure if these are standard, I'm missing bets, or are just completely donkified on my part. If people are willing to take a look at this and let me know their thoughts I'd definitely appreciate it.Also, I include stack sizes in the first hand but not in the rest (unless they change substantially).First hand at the table - how does this look?PokerStars Game #12082688075: Triple Draw 2-7 Lowball Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/09/15 - 23:10:30 (ET)Table 'Titius' 6-max Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 1: pb ($6.05 in chips) Seat 2: HERO~! ($20 in chips) Seat 3: bd ($31.60 in chips) Seat 4: r4 ($25.85 in chips) Seat 5: sbb ($10.05 in chips) Seat 6: yd ($19 in chips) pb: posts small blind $0.25HERO~!: posts big blind $0.50*** DEALING HANDS ***Dealt to HERO~! [2s 3h 8h 7s 4d]bd: folds r4: calls $0.50sbb: calls $0.50yd: folds pb: folds HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1r4: calls $0.50sbb: calls $0.50*** FIRST DRAW ***HERO~!: stands pat on [2s 3h 8h 7s 4d]r4: discards 2 cardssbb: discards 2 cardsHERO~! bets $0.50------------------------------------------Anybody raise this hand in EP? I have two deuces, and a two card eight draw. I guess I assume that people aren't folding enough at this limit to make any sort of play here? Dealt to HERO~! [Th 6d 8h 2c 2s]bd has returnedHERO~!: folds -------------------------------------------This is a fold preflop, right?*** DEALING HANDS ***Dealt to HERO~! [4s 3h 7h 4d Js]r4: folds sbb: calls $0.50yd: folds pb: calls $0.25HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1------------------------------------------This too?*** DEALING HANDS ***Dealt to HERO~! [7c 8c 2d 7d Ac]r4: folds sbb: folds yd: raises $0.50 to $1pb: folds HERO~!: calls $0.75bd: folds ------------------------------------------What about this one? I'm sort of lost as to what YD has, but I sort of figure if I can hit an 8 or better I'm good here.Dealt to HERO~! [7h Qc Kh 2s 6h]sbb: calls $0.50yd: raises $0.50 to $1pb: calls $1HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1.50bd: folds r4: folds sbb: folds yd: calls $0.50pb: calls $0.50*** FIRST DRAW ***yd: discards 1 cardpb: discards 2 cardsHERO~!: discards 2 cards [Qc Kh]Dealt to HERO~! [7h 2s 6h] [3s 7s]yd: bets $0.50pb: calls $0.50HERO~!: calls $0.50*** SECOND DRAW ***yd: discards 1 cardpb: discards 2 cardsHERO~!: discards 1 card [7s]Dealt to HERO~! [7h 2s 6h 3s] [3h]yd: bets $1pb: calls $1HERO~!: calls $1*** THIRD DRAW ***yd: stands pat pb: discards 1 cardHERO~!: discards 1 card [3h]Dealt to HERO~! [7h 2s 6h 3s] [9c]yd: checks pb: checks HERO~!: checks -----------------------------A one card 8 draw. I re-raise to isolate, but I'm not feeling confident after he caps it pre-draw, but when he check calls the next two draws and discards two each time I feel like I'm ok*** DEALING HANDS ***Dealt to HERO~! [8c Jh 3d 6d 7d]yd: folds pb: raises $0.50 to $1HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1.50bd: folds r4: folds sbb: folds pb: raises $0.50 to $2Betting is cappedHERO~!: calls $0.50*** FIRST DRAW ***pb: discards 2 cardsHERO~!: discards 1 card [Jh]Dealt to HERO~! [8c 3d 6d 7d] [6c]pb: checks HERO~!: bets $0.50pb: calls $0.50*** SECOND DRAW ***pb: discards 2 cardsHERO~!: discards 1 card [6c]Dealt to HERO~! [8c 3d 6d 7d] [Ks]pb: checks HERO~!: bets $1pb: calls $1*** THIRD DRAW ***pb: discards 2 cardsHERO~!: discards 1 card [Ks]Dealt to HERO~! [8c 3d 6d 7d] [5c]pb: bets $1HERO~!: calls $1*** SHOW DOWN ***-------------------------------Last oneDealt to HERO~! [4h 7s 2h 4c 9h]pb: folds HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1bd: folds r4: calls $1sbb: folds yd: folds *** FIRST DRAW ***HERO~!: discards 2 cards [4c 9h]Dealt to HERO~! [4h 7s 2h] [Kh Jc]r4: discards 2 cardsHERO~!: checks r4: checks *** SECOND DRAW ***HERO~!: discards 2 cards [Kh Jc]Dealt to HERO~! [4h 7s 2h] [7h 5h]r4: discards 1 cardHERO~!: checks r4: bets $1HERO~!: calls $1*** THIRD DRAW ***HERO~!: discards 1 card [7h]Dealt to HERO~! [4h 7s 2h 5h] [7d]r4: discards 1 cardHERO~!: checks r4: bets $1HERO~!: folds

[checkymcfold 0]

I couldn't make the converter in the stickied thread work, but I've cleaned up the HH as best as I could. I'm a super-beginner at this game, only played a handful of $1 SNGs, never cash game TD until yesterday. Not sure if these are standard, I'm missing bets, or are just completely donkified on my part. If people are willing to take a look at this and let me know their thoughts I'd definitely appreciate it.Also, I include stack sizes in the first hand but not in the rest (unless they change substantially).First hand at the table - how does this look?PokerStars Game #12082688075: Triple Draw 2-7 Lowball Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/09/15 - 23:10:30 (ET)Table 'Titius' 6-max Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 1: pb ($6.05 in chips) Seat 2: HERO~! ($20 in chips) Seat 3: bd ($31.60 in chips) Seat 4: r4 ($25.85 in chips) Seat 5: sbb ($10.05 in chips) Seat 6: yd ($19 in chips) pb: posts small blind $0.25HERO~!: posts big blind $0.50*** DEALING HANDS ***Dealt to HERO~! [2s 3h 8h 7s 4d]bd: folds r4: calls $0.50sbb: calls $0.50yd: folds pb: folds HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1r4: calls $0.50sbb: calls $0.50*** FIRST DRAW ***HERO~!: stands pat on [2s 3h 8h 7s 4d]r4: discards 2 cardssbb: discards 2 cardsHERO~! bets $0.50

std------------------------------------------Anybody raise this hand in EP? I have two deuces, and a two card eight draw. I guess I assume that people aren't folding enough at this limit to make any sort of play here? Dealt to HERO~! [Th 6d 8h 2c 2s]bd has returnedHERO~!: folds that's a raise, every time.

-------------------------------------------This is a fold preflop, right?*** DEALING HANDS ***Dealt to HERO~! [4s 3h 7h 4d Js]r4: folds sbb: calls $0.50yd: folds pb: calls $0.25HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1

you're the bb? check.

------------------------------------------This too?*** DEALING HANDS ***Dealt to HERO~! [7c 8c 2d 7d Ac]r4: folds sbb: folds yd: raises $0.50 to $1pb: folds HERO~!: calls $0.75bd: folds

i fold that OOP unless i feel like the villain is really bad. if bb comes along, your hand really sucks (though it's fine HU, just not great), and that's gonna happen more often than not at .50/1

------------------------------------------What about this one? I'm sort of lost as to what YD has, but I sort of figure if I can hit an 8 or better I'm good here.Dealt to HERO~! [7h Qc Kh 2s 6h]sbb: calls $0.50yd: raises $0.50 to $1pb: calls $1HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1.50bd: folds r4: folds sbb: folds yd: calls $0.50pb: calls $0.50*** FIRST DRAW ***yd: discards 1 cardpb: discards 2 cardsHERO~!: discards 2 cards [Qc Kh]Dealt to HERO~! [7h 2s 6h] [3s 7s]yd: bets $0.50pb: calls $0.50HERO~!: calls $0.50*** SECOND DRAW ***yd: discards 1 cardpb: discards 2 cardsHERO~!: discards 1 card [7s]Dealt to HERO~! [7h 2s 6h 3s] [3h]yd: bets $1pb: calls $1HERO~!: calls $1*** THIRD DRAW ***yd: stands pat pb: discards 1 cardHERO~!: discards 1 card [3h]Dealt to HERO~! [7h 2s 6h 3s] [9c]yd: checks pb: checks HERO~!: checks -----------------------------

i dont 3bet here preflop. there's no reason to think you can push off the first guy, though maybe 3betting has some value in buying the button. that's table dependent, though.after the first draw i raise with a 4 cd 7 and probably cap with a 3rd guy in the middle. your equity's good here for that.other streets are standard.

A one card 8 draw. I re-raise to isolate, but I'm not feeling confident after he caps it pre-draw, but when he check calls the next two draws and discards two each time I feel like I'm ok*** DEALING HANDS ***Dealt to HERO~! [8c Jh 3d 6d 7d]yd: folds pb: raises $0.50 to $1HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1.50bd: folds r4: folds sbb: folds pb: raises $0.50 to $2Betting is cappedHERO~!: calls $0.50*** FIRST DRAW ***pb: discards 2 cardsHERO~!: discards 1 card [Jh]Dealt to HERO~! [8c 3d 6d 7d] [6c]pb: checks HERO~!: bets $0.50pb: calls $0.50*** SECOND DRAW ***pb: discards 2 cardsHERO~!: discards 1 card [6c]Dealt to HERO~! [8c 3d 6d 7d] [Ks]pb: checks HERO~!: bets $1pb: calls $1*** THIRD DRAW ***pb: discards 2 cardsHERO~!: discards 1 card [Ks]Dealt to HERO~! [8c 3d 6d 7d] [5c]pb: bets $1HERO~!: calls $1*** SHOW DOWN ***-------------------------------

std. sometimes you can raise the end against certain opponents..

Last oneDealt to HERO~! [4h 7s 2h 4c 9h]pb: folds HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1bd: folds r4: calls $1sbb: folds yd: folds *** FIRST DRAW ***HERO~!: discards 2 cards [4c 9h]Dealt to HERO~! [4h 7s 2h] [Kh Jc]r4: discards 2 cardsHERO~!: checks r4: checks *** SECOND DRAW ***HERO~!: discards 2 cards [Kh Jc]Dealt to HERO~! [4h 7s 2h] [7h 5h]r4: discards 1 cardHERO~!: checks r4: bets $1HERO~!: calls $1*** THIRD DRAW ***HERO~!: discards 1 card [7h]Dealt to HERO~! [4h 7s 2h 5h] [7d]r4: discards 1 cardHERO~!: checks r4: bets $1HERO~!: folds

std. betting after the first draw is ok, too, as is bet/folding the end.

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Checky, thanks for the thoughts. Can I ask for a clarification on two of the hands? The second hand (2268x) you say raise, every time, but the fourth hand (278xx) you say fold. I see two major differences between the hands - one I can be the aggressor and have an extra 2. The other I'm not the first to enter the pot and have two blanks to go with my 8 draw. Is the first one a raise because I can open the pot?Big thanks for your help, it's greatly appreciated. I've been winning money at the micro limit 2-7 tables, but I have no idea if it's luck or just because everyone else is worse at this game than I am. It looks like I'm at least on the right track...much work to go though.Thanks again!

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Checky, thanks for the thoughts. Can I ask for a clarification on two of the hands? The second hand (2268x) you say raise, every time, but the fourth hand (278xx) you say fold. I see two major differences between the hands - one I can be the aggressor and have an extra 2. The other I'm not the first to enter the pot and have two blanks to go with my 8 draw. Is the first one a raise because I can open the pot?Big thanks for your help, it's greatly appreciated. I've been winning money at the micro limit 2-7 tables, but I have no idea if it's luck or just because everyone else is worse at this game than I am. It looks like I'm at least on the right track...much work to go though.Thanks again!

chance to make an 86 is far better than making an 87 and perhaps a rough(876)87 plus knowing there's one dead duece.