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#1 Sindri

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Posted 25 April 2005 - 01:19 PM

Sorry, no hand history from FullTilt so I have to do this the old way.SnG Blinds $50-$100. I 'm in 2nd with $4000SB has $1200BB has $6000Me on Button dealt A :club: K :D Raise to $400 both callFlop A :D T :) 4 :) Both check I bet $800 (Don't mind a caller) Both call-(I'm thinking I got them both with A's and lower kickers)Turn 2 :club: Both check. I bet $2000. SB fold BB puts me all in.Do you call?I'll post the answer tonight.

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Posted 25 April 2005 - 01:23 PM

SnG Blinds $50-$100. I 'm in 2nd with $4000SB has $1200BB has $6000Me on Button dealt A :club: K :D Raise to $400 both calli do the sameFlop A :D T :) 4 :) Both check I bet $800 (Don't mind a caller) Both call-(I'm thinking I got them both with A's and lower kickers)pot the flop Turn 2 :club: Both check. I bet $2000. SB fold BB puts me all in.Do you call?don't give anyone the option to raise you, just go allin
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Posted 25 April 2005 - 01:28 PM

Sindri said:

Sorry, no hand history from FullTilt so I have to do this the old way.SnG Blinds $50-$100. I 'm in 2nd with $4000SB has $1200BB has $6000Me on Button dealt A :club: K :D Raise to $400 both callFlop A :D T :) 4 :) Both check I bet $800 (Don't mind a caller) Both call-(I'm thinking I got them both with A's and lower kickers)Turn 2 :club: Both check. I bet $2000. SB fold BB puts me all in.Do you call?I'll post the answer tonight.
so you have 4K in chipsyou have already invest 3.2K up to this pointdo you call 800 more?do you need to ask?

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Posted 25 April 2005 - 01:36 PM

I was about to do the math, glad I saw Absolute did it first :-) Push on the turn. There's something like 3600 in the pot. you have 2800 left. Betting 2000 then even considering folding is bad.

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Posted 25 April 2005 - 01:37 PM

"Absolute said:

do you call 800 more?do you need to ask?
Intersting. I could fold and with the way they were playing feel I'd have a shot a still taking first. With the blinds at that level I could fold and reuild off the other two small stacks. I've been in worse positions before. You still call if you think you're beat?

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Posted 25 April 2005 - 01:37 PM

add on to absolute.....you have 3200 of your 4k in, no way you can fold. shoulda just pushed rather than betting 2k of your 2800, horrible play....even worse if you fold

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Posted 25 April 2005 - 01:40 PM

Sindri said:

Intersting. I could fold and with the way they were playing feel I'd have a shot a still taking first. With the blinds at that level I could fold and reuild off the other two small stacks. I've been in worse positions before.
you'd have 8xBB and leave the BB massively big stacked. The best players in the world would have a really hard time overcoming that difference on skill alone. You would have to get extremely lucky.

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Posted 25 April 2005 - 01:41 PM

BTW, Qualifier. Only first pays. Why push? If you think you've got him he might fold to a push.

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Posted 25 April 2005 - 01:44 PM

Because you leave him the option to reraise you, and now you're wonering if you should call. That's why you push when you're sure you've got the best hand.

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Posted 25 April 2005 - 01:44 PM

I guess $2k is a strange bet. It was in the heat of battle and I figured I had the best hand until the reraise. Also, with the way the other two were palying I would have pick up quite a bit. Maybe not enough but like I said I've been in worse positions and climbed out.

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Posted 25 April 2005 - 01:53 PM

Ok change the amounts a bit and then would you call. Lets say I had $4000 left and he put me all in. My point was more the cards than the money. I was trying to figure his hand out. Was he holding A-T or on a draw of some sort. He called the bet on the flop and then check raised me. Even if it was only $800 it would bust me out.

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Posted 25 April 2005 - 01:54 PM

Sindri said:

I guess $2k is a strange bet. It was in the heat of battle and I figured I had the best hand until the reraise. Also, with the way the other two were palying I would have pick up quite a bit. Maybe not enough but like I said I've been in worse positions and climbed out.
Yeah... still gotta agree with the fellas on this one. Here he's puttin you on a decision rather than vice versa. Only things that got ya beat are a set or two pair, and you still would have outs even if that were true. No straight or flush draws likely.Not really even a question... Only thing is, ya gotta wonder what this guy is playing with if he's pushin so hard with an Ace on the board. Maybe he's got two pair... or maybe he thinks you would have gone all in if you knew you had the nutz kicker. Really depends on his type of play. Either way though, you are absolutely all in in this situation.

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Posted 25 April 2005 - 02:23 PM

pushing on the turn would have been best, but it didnt happenthe question at hand is should the allin be called and the answer is yes

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Posted 25 April 2005 - 05:46 PM

Well, I agree with you guys on calling. I had a bad feelinf but called anyway after thinking it through. He torned over 3-5 os and I was gone.His play was nuts and brilliant at the same time. No way I could put him on that hand. My only hope is I get lucky enough to do the same to someone else one day.What a great move huh?

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Posted 25 April 2005 - 05:48 PM

i disagree!!!pushing on the turn is NOT the best move, IMO.you WANT worse hands to raise you. they might fold if you push.(this is an easy call, of course.)the bet 2000 is correct IF you intend to call a raise all-in.if you intend to fold to an all-in, pushing all-in doesn't make any sense, as you'll normally only get called when you're beat.aseem

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Posted 25 April 2005 - 07:05 PM

the pot is 8400 if im right.400x3=1200800x3=24002000+2800=4800so youre getting 10.5 to 1 to callif your hand is good 1 in 11,5 times, call.so yea, call.

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Posted 26 April 2005 - 12:33 PM

Your opponent called a 3BB raise with 35 os? Yikes. Anyway, the hand I would really be worried about at the all in point is A 10. Otherwise, I would think that I have it. Like others have said, with so much invested at this point, it is a call for sure.




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