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#1 Trono

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:25 PM

Ultimate Bet 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Bad Mother Fucker is UTG+2 with A:diamond:, A:heart:. UTG calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, UTG calls.Flop: (21.40 SB) 8:club:, K:heart:, 3:diamond: (5 players)UTG checks, Bad Mother Fucker betscker calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.I check here, because I feel that CO has made a set.Turn: (14.70 BB) 3:heart: (4 players)Bad Mother Fucker checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, CO checks.After CO checks the turn, I feel that I have the best hand.River: (14.70 BB) 6:spade: (4 players)Bad Mother Fucker bets, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls.Final Pot: 17.70 BB[size=3]Results in white below: Bad Mother Fu[b]cker has Ad Ah (two pair, aces and threes). MP2 has Qd Qc (two pair, queens and threes). CO has Kd 8d (two pair, kings and eights). Outcome: Bad Mother ****** wins 17.70 BB.

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:29 PM

but it was soooooooooooooooted

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:32 PM

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but it was soooooooooooooooted
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:33 PM

you need to threebet the flop, badly. The pot is enormous so you need to protect your hand by any means neccessary. Betting the turn is mandatory too
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:34 PM

raise the flop, bet the turn

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:38 PM

wow........everyone may now line up to smak myself....For about 10-15 min, I didnt realize Trono had won.....dam lack of sleep*smack**smack**smack*who's next??

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:40 PM

RonBurgundy said:

raise the flop, bet the turn

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:42 PM

I don't think it's a mandatory raise on the flop and bet the turn. He made a read on an opponent. While the read on trips wasn't right, he was right that he was beat. I would still 3-bet the flop to find out. If he caps you're beat, if he just calls you're probably good. I don't mind the check on the turn if you think you're beat, but you should 3-bet the flop to find out. and the bet on the river was good with everyone checking on the turn.

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:44 PM

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I don't think it's a mandatory raise on the flop and bet the turn. He made a read on an opponent. While the read on trips wasn't right, he was right that he was beat. I would still 3-bet the flop to find out. If he caps you're beat, if he just calls you're probably good. I don't mind the check on the turn if you think you're beat, but you should 3-bet the flop to find out. and the bet on the river was good with everyone checking on the turn.
It is a crucial mistake to give a free card in this big ass mother fucking pot. It's also a big mistake to even *think* about folding your AA because you think someone has trips.The pot is just way too big.
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:45 PM

I check here, because I feel that CO has made a setthe only set you need to fear is 88 In my opinion, with a raise and 3-bet...no reason to not cap with KK, and no reason to call 3 cold with 33, IMO

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:46 PM

wrto4556 said:

RISEorFall said:

I don't think it's a mandatory raise on the flop and bet the turn. He made a read on an opponent. While the read on trips wasn't right, he was right that he was beat. I would still 3-bet the flop to find out. If he caps you're beat, if he just calls you're probably good. I don't mind the check on the turn if you think you're beat, but you should 3-bet the flop to find out. and the bet on the river was good with everyone checking on the turn.
It is a crucial mistake to give a free card in this big ass mother fucking pot. It's also a big mistake to even *think* about folding your AA because you think someone has trips.The pot is just way too big.

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:48 PM

wrto4556 said:

RISEorFall said:

I don't think it's a mandatory raise on the flop and bet the turn. He made a read on an opponent. While the read on trips wasn't right, he was right that he was beat. I would still 3-bet the flop to find out. If he caps you're beat, if he just calls you're probably good. I don't mind the check on the turn if you think you're beat, but you should 3-bet the flop to find out. and the bet on the river was good with everyone checking on the turn.
It is a crucial mistake to give a free card in this big ass mother fucking pot. It's also a big mistake to even *think* about folding your AA because you think someone has trips.The pot is just way too big.
I definitely wasn't going to fold, the aces.

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:56 PM

wrto4556 said:

wrto4556 said:

RISEorFall said:

I don't think it's a mandatory raise on the flop and bet the turn. He made a read on an opponent. While the read on trips wasn't right, he was right that he was beat. I would still 3-bet the flop to find out. If he caps you're beat, if he just calls you're probably good. I don't mind the check on the turn if you think you're beat, but you should 3-bet the flop to find out. and the bet on the river was good with everyone checking on the turn.
It is a crucial mistake to give a free card in this big ass mother fucking pot. It's also a big mistake to even *think* about folding your AA because you think someone has trips.The pot is just way too big.
did you just quote yourself?

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:56 PM

I never said fold. And yeah, i agree that giving a free card would be horrible here, but isn't betting when you're pretty sure you're beat chip spewing? What if you bet and then get raised? I understand staying aggressive with a good hand in a big pot is good, but betting when you think you're beat is just wasting chips isnt it? WRTO and well, everyone else who is saying keep betting, if you think you're beat why keep betting? I'm not saying its horribly wrong, I'm just curious about why.

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:57 PM

I didn't even notice. I just seen outstanding advice and quoted it. :D
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:58 PM

RonBurgundy said:

wrto4556 said:

wrto4556 said:

RISEorFall said:

I don't think it's a mandatory raise on the flop and bet the turn. He made a read on an opponent. While the read on trips wasn't right, he was right that he was beat. I would still 3-bet the flop to find out. If he caps you're beat, if he just calls you're probably good. I don't mind the check on the turn if you think you're beat, but you should 3-bet the flop to find out. and the bet on the river was good with everyone checking on the turn.
It is a crucial mistake to give a free card in this big ass mother fucking pot. It's also a big mistake to even *think* about folding your AA because you think someone has trips.The pot is just way too big.
did you just quote yourself?
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:58 PM

wrto4556 said:

I didn't even notice. I just seen outstanding advice and quoted it. :D
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:58 PM

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I never said fold. And yeah, i agree that giving a free card would be horrible here, but isn't betting when you're pretty sure you're beat chip spewing? What if you bet and then get raised? I understand staying aggressive with a good hand in a big pot is good, but betting when you think you're beat is just wasting chips isnt it? WRTO and well, everyone else who is saying keep betting, if you think you're beat why keep betting? I'm not saying its horribly wrong, I'm just curious about why.
because more often you're up against kq or ak not a set

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 09:03 PM

RonBurgundy said:

RISEorFall said:

I never said fold. And yeah, i agree that giving a free card would be horrible here, but isn't betting when you're pretty sure you're beat chip spewing? What if you bet and then get raised? I understand staying aggressive with a good hand in a big pot is good, but betting when you think you're beat is just wasting chips isnt it? WRTO and well, everyone else who is saying keep betting, if you think you're beat why keep betting? I'm not saying its horribly wrong, I'm just curious about why.
because more often you're up against kq or ak not a set
Yep. One raise on the flop and all of a sudden someone has a set. Talk about monsters in the closet and shit.what it boils down to, if you have a good chance of having the best hand in a gigantic pot. be aggressive so that the times your hand *is* good, it holds up.
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 09:14 PM

Way too weak here. Despite popular belief, AA plays great multiway. That flop and turn is absolutely great for you. As others have said, raise the flop, bet the turn. Be aggressive and stop fearing sets. Of course if that 3 had not hit on the turn I would have lost a lot of money.




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