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#1 Evenflown

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:02 PM

Assuming my post flop play is good, what is the lowest PP I should be raising with in early position in 6 handed games on the party poker 1/2 limit tables. I seem to get dealt a lot of 99's, 88's, and 77's in early position and I'm never too sure what to do with them when there are only six players.

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:09 PM

raise with em. I would most certaintly be raising with 77 probably 66 as well that is where i would draw the line though. They are too strong shorthanded and help disguise your play a little bit.
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:18 PM

You want to be raising with any pair pretty much. 2's-5's you might want to just smooth call but beyond that I would raise with them. If it is raised to me I would just call with 5-8 and reraise 9-A.Pairs hold up more often unimproved in 6 handed than they do on a full table. A lot of people limp PaintX or Ax on shorthanded tables.

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:20 PM

Monoatomic,that's bad advice, imo.AA-66 should be a raise from EP. Not 55-22. They're weak.You can 3-bet to isolate with AA-66.
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:56 PM

monoatomic said:

You want to be raising with any pair pretty much. 2's-5's you might want to just smooth call but beyond that I would raise with them. If it is raised to me I would just call with 5-8 and reraise 9-A.Pairs hold up more often unimproved in 6 handed than they do on a full table. A lot of people limp PaintX or Ax on shorthanded tables.
....so youre saying in a short handed game, youre folding 22-55 to a raise. Certainly fold them to a cold three bet, but 2 cold isnt a bad idea with any PP

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:58 PM

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so youre saying in a short handed game, youre folding 22-55 to a raise.
I sure am.
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 09:11 PM

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so youre saying in a short handed game, youre folding 22-55 to a raise.
I sure am.
meh, dont agree but I dont hate it

#8 Evenflown

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 09:17 PM

On the 1/2 tables you should always cold call two bets with any pocket pair, if you have a low pocket pair and the flop comes down low and it's just you and the raiser, you are probably way ahead.And even if there a lot of players in the hand, if you flop your set you are going to get paid off a lot.

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 11:35 PM

[/quote]Monoatomic,that's bad advice, imo.AA-66 should be a raise from EP. Not 55-22. They're weak.You can 3-bet to isolate with AA-66.[quote]I agreed with you in my post that 66-AA is a raise from anywhere and that 22-55 is a call not a raise.When facing a raise I call with 66-88 and reraise with 99-AA. So you're saying raise with 66-AA instead of just calling 66-88? I agree with you that 22-55 is a fold to a raise as they hardly will hold up unless you flop a set.maybe 88-AA reraise but I would think that even someone playing loose would make calls with K9 Q10 and would break your pair if a 9 4 2 or similiar fell to your 66-88. Maybe I am just not that aggressive with mid/low pairs.

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Posted 25 April 2005 - 12:56 AM

I don't mean to 3-bet them no matter what. I should clarify.3-bet if it isolates.Say you have 66 in the CO.UTG folds, MP raises, You should 3-bet to try and fold out the button and the two blinds. If you get it heads up your 66 is bomb.
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Posted 25 April 2005 - 01:01 PM

Ahh

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Posted 25 April 2005 - 01:06 PM

Perfect...
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