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Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.10 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Button ($1.55)SB ($5.74)BB ($10)UTG ($5.15)UTG+1 ($7.43)Hero ($12.40)MP2 ($10.62)MP3 ($5.46)CO ($9.91)Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 3, A. UTG+1 calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, 4 folds, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: ($0.40) 5, 7, 4(5 players)SB bets $0.25, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $0.8, SB calls $0.55.Turn: ($2) T(3 players)SB checks, Hero checks.River: ($2) 2(3 players)SB bets $0.85, Hero raises to...Obviously, I'm raising here. The question though is, how much?Villain - 21.74/6.52/2.4 92 hands

[NoBBiR 0]

I think a pot sized raise is in order. Somewhere between $3 and $3.7. The 2 looks like a complete dud card, and it looks like you missed your flush and are trying to pick it up. He'll puke/call with KsTs

[rdtedm 0]

This might be a good spot for an overbet. Exactly what above poster says, looks exactly like a missed flush draw attempting a buy. I'd make it $4ish, or more.

[Money022 0]

Does anyone else dislike checking behind on the turn after raising on the flop?

[ghoti 0]

I don't see much advantage in betting the turn, villain called our flop raise and isn't likely to be put off by the ten. On the flop we padded the pot in case we hit the draw and bought an extra card through villain's turn check. Now we've hit our draw and are looking to get paid off, as others above I'd probably bet a pot sized amount.

[Money022 0]

I don't see much advantage in betting the turn, villain called our flop raise and isn't likely to be put off by the ten. On the flop we padded the pot in case we hit the draw and bought an extra card through villain's turn check. Now we've hit our draw and are looking to get paid off, as others above I'd probably bet a pot sized amount.

To build the pot. He's got a nut flush draw and an open-ended straight draw, although the 2 would be better than the 6 if connecting to the straight. He's not that far behind most hands. Besides, it's going to be hard to get paid off if a spade hits unless the villian is on a slightly weaker flush draw.I'm not saying you have to bet the turn, but the above thoughts would be good reasons to do so if you're in a mood to gamble a bit.

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To build the pot. He's got a nut flush draw and an open-ended straight draw, although the 2 would be better than the 6 if connecting to the straight. He's not that far behind most hands. Besides, it's going to be hard to get paid off if a spade hits unless the villian is on a slightly weaker flush draw.I'm not saying you have to bet the turn, but the above thoughts would be good reasons to do so if you're in a mood to gamble a bit.

I think I like a turn bet here as well, probably a smallish bet of about 1/2 the pot.

[tskillz187 0]

Does anyone else dislike checking behind on the turn after raising on the flop?

Yes, bet this turn more often than not. Your hand plays kind of transparently (flush draw, not combo draw) if you don't bet it.

[ghoti 0]

To build the pot. He's got a nut flush draw and an open-ended straight draw, although the 2 would be better than the 6 if connecting to the straight. He's not that far behind most hands. Besides, it's going to be hard to get paid off if a spade hits unless the villian is on a slightly weaker flush draw.I'm not saying you have to bet the turn, but the above thoughts would be good reasons to do so if you're in a mood to gamble a bit.

I get the principle of building the pot but at this point hero is probably a 40/60 dog whereas on the flop we likely had a slight edge. I guess I just don't like putting extra money in the pot when I think I'm behind in hopes of hitting. If I thought there was a fair chance of villain folding to the turn bet I'd be ok with it but in this case not so much.

[tskillz187 0]

If I thought there was a fair chance of villain folding to the turn bet I'd be ok with it but in this case not so much.

Why?

[whatgreatis 0]

I like the check on the turn only because we got there with the straight and not the flush. It should be pretty obvious we have a flush draw but he wont put us on the straight. Raise the river large and represent a broken flush.

[NoBBiR 0]

I only like the check on the turn because whenever I have and OESD and a FD I always brick the river and no one ever folds to me.

[ghoti 0]

Yes, bet this turn more often than not. Your hand plays kind of transparently (flush draw, not combo draw) if you don't bet it.

This reasoning I like better.

Why?

If we're behind and villain will call our turn bet but not call on the river when we hit then betting the turn is less profitable in the long run. Let say we bet $1, villain calls -- that's betting $1 to try to win $3. In the long run we will make 0.4*3 - 0.6*1 = 0.6However, if we check, in the long run we make 0.4*2 - 0.6*0 = 0.8Betting the turn only helps us if a) sometimes villain folds to the turn bet or 2) it leads to villain paying us off for more when we hit, or i suppose iii) it sufficiently worries villain we can get him to fold to a river raise when we brick it.I don't like the bet if we are trying to build the pot because we want to gamble. I like the disguise argument better, we are improving our chances of getting extra money from villain on the river when we hit, I'm still not sure that villain pays off a spade or 6 enough to make it worth it though.

[SCS 0]

I get the principle of building the pot but at this point hero is probably a 40/60 dog whereas on the flop we likely had a slight edge. I guess I just don't like putting extra money in the pot when I think I'm behind in hopes of hitting. If I thought there was a fair chance of villain folding to the turn bet I'd be ok with it but in this case not so much.

Assuming villain calls, betting half the pot on the turn would give us 3-1 on our money. Plus it would likely increase our implied odds on the river if we hit.

[ghoti 0]

Assuming villain calls, betting half the pot on the turn would give us 3-1 on our money. Plus it would likely increase our implied odds on the river if we hit.

If villain will call the turn bet AND a fair sized river bet when we hit, then the turn bet is good. Certainly I think 3-1 is good odds for where we're at, of course 2-0 is better odds.