Jj Gets Pot-stuck/lucky

[HangukMiguk 8]

3-6 LHE, 10 Handed. Table has been very loose-passive. Nobody really deviated from this norm.Hero is BB with J J :heart:Preflop:UTG folds, 6 calls, button folds, SB completes, Hero raises, 4 calls, Hijack folds, CO calls, SB calls.Flop (7 players): 15 SB8 5 2 :diamond:SB checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO raises, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.Turn (4 players): 9.5 BBJ :spade:Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, CO bets, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 callsRiver (4 players): 5 13.5 BBHero...?Which is right here? Lead out, go for an overcall, or check/raise? Pretty obvious CO either has the flush or maybe (but less likely) 88 or 22, so how do I get the most money out of this pot?

[Cappy37 0]

I would think you have to bet out, to either a. ) get 4 or 5 calls, or b. ) give someone a chance to raise you. It's not entirely out of the scenario to check and have the whole world check behind you on that board. Your dream scenario would be to check, have the next player bet, and have everyone call behind so you can then raise.I'd bet out, and take the 4 or 5 potential big bets, hoping for a raise behind.Of course, I'm the furthest thing from a LHE expert, so please consider all other sources of input.

[Shimmering Wang 1]

Getting a C/R in on this board is less valuable than it usually is in Multiway pots, because you're to the likely-bettor's immediate left, and will shut out all but the best hands and worst players. Lead out.1) CO is calling with a flush for sure, and he may raise.2) If you get one caller in addition to CO, it's likely just as profitable as a check/raise, given position. This is without the risk of it going check check, and ignoring the possible benefits of being able to take a little trip to 3-town.3) CO is probably very passive, and may give up betting with like a T hi flush or something. If he has a boat, he'll raise most of the time anyway.So: Lead out. If you get to 3-bet, you must say, "What has two thumbs and is 3-betting this pot to 18?" (puts 12 more dollars in pot) "Oh. Me, obviously." (Neglects to do "points thumbs at chest" punchline, which makes the joke even funnier.)Fin

[HangukMiguk 8]

Getting a C/R in on this board is less valuable than it usually is in Multiway pots, because you're to the likely-bettor's immediate left, and will shut out all but the best hands and worst players. Lead out.1) CO is calling with a flush for sure, and he may raise.2) If you get one caller in addition to CO, it's likely just as profitable as a check/raise, given position. This is without the risk of it going check check, and ignoring the possible benefits of being able to take a little trip to 3-town.3) CO is probably very passive, and may give up betting with like a T hi flush or something. If he has a boat, he'll raise most of the time anyway.So: Lead out. If you get to 3-bet, you must say, "What has two thumbs and is 3-betting this pot to 18?" (puts 12 more dollars in pot) "Oh. Me, obviously." (Neglects to do "points thumbs at chest" punchline, which makes the joke even funnier.)Fin

lol, good advice, thanks.

[Actuary 3]

before reading replies....I lead the turnYou get 2 callers and raised a good deal.You have either have 10 outs or you are ahead.I think you should be ahead enough to offset the negative of getting raised by a flush of not getting all the calls.I don't want to c/r the turn because of our position.And regardless, leead the river.Get 3 bets in sometimes and get some calls in between which you might miss if you face them with two.. or worse, the Flushie gets scared of the paired board