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#1 rivercardbandit

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Posted 23 April 2005 - 05:27 PM

I took a gigantic step backwards last night. If I wasn't folding preflop, I was chasing, if I wasn't chasing, I was just being plain stupid. I know I need to play more hands but during this session I saw the flop about 16% of the time. I pretty much go off of the pre-flop chart and I just didn't get the cards and when I did, I just didn't play well or ran into better cards. Anyway, I went from $178 down to $147 and decided I should drop down a limit until I get some confidence back.I really appreciate the hand analysis I get from you all, a lot. Thanks in advance!PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is Button with [Qd], [Td]. UTG calls, 4 folds, UTG calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.----Hit the wrong button.Flop: (11 SB) [4d], [2d], [Kc] (5 players)SB checks, UTG checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, rvrcrdbandit bets, SB calls, UTG calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.----Bet at the flush draw.Turn: (8 BB) [Kh] (5 players)SB checks, UTG checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, rvrcrdbandit checks.----Got scaredRiver: (8 BB) [9c] (5 players)SB checks, UTG bets, MP3 calls, CO folds, rvrcrdbandit folds, SB folds.Final Pot: 10 BBPokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is BB with [Th], [Kh]. 1 fold, rvrcrdbandit calls, UTG+1 calls.----Worth calling 1 bet from button, no?Flop: (6.40 SB) [Qs], [4d], [9s] (3 players)rvrcrdbandit checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG+1 calls.----Fold instead of chase the inside straight, right?Turn: (7.20 BB) [2s] (2 players)UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, UTG+1 calls.River: (9.20 BB) [5s] (2 players)UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, UTG+1 calls.Final Pot: 11.20 BBPokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is UTG+2 with [Qh], [Ad]. 2 folds.Flop: (5.40 SB) [Ts], [Qs], [Jd] (2 players)rvrcrdbandit bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.----Should have folded to the raise?Turn: (4.70 BB) [3c] (2 players)rvrcrdbandit checks, MP3 bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.River: (6.70 BB) [Tc] (2 players)rvrcrdbandit checks, MP3 bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.Final Pot: 8.70 BBPokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is Button with [Qc], [Kh]. 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.Flop: (10 SB) [Ks], [9d], [9s] (5 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, rvrcrdbandit bets, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds.Turn: (6.50 BB) [Ad] (3 players)SB checks, UTG+1 checks, rvrcrdbandit bets, UTG+1 folds, rvrcrdbandit calls.----Fold here instead of calling?River: (10.50 BB) [Jc] (2 players)SB bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.Final Pot: 12.50 BBPokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is BB with [Qs], [Ah]. 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.Flop: (10.40 SB) [5d], [4h], [As] (5 players)rvrcrdbandit bets, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls.Turn: (6.70 BB) [4d] (3 players)rvrcrdbandit bets, CO folds, rvrcrdbandit calls.----Fold to the raise?River: (10.70 BB) [Jh] (2 players)rvrcrdbandit checks, MP2 bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.----Check/Call here was correct since he woke up on the turn?Final Pot: 12.70 BB

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Posted 23 April 2005 - 05:56 PM

My thoughts in green

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PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is Button with [Qd], [Td].    UTG calls, 4 folds, UTG calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.----Hit the wrong button.Flop: (11 SB) [4d], [2d], [Kc] (5 players)SB checks, UTG checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, rvrcrdbandit bets, SB calls, UTG calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.----Bet at the flush draw.Turn: (8 BB) [Kh] (5 players)SB checks, UTG checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, rvrcrdbandit checks.----Got scaredRiver: (8 BB) [9c] (5 players)SB checks, UTG bets, MP3 calls, CO folds, rvrcrdbandit folds, SB folds.Final Pot: 10 BBGiven you hit the wrong button, the rest looks fine.PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is BB with [Th], [Kh].    1 fold, rvrcrdbandit calls, UTG+1 calls.----Worth calling 1 bet from button, no?Flop: (6.40 SB) [Qs], [4d], [9s] (3 players)rvrcrdbandit checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG+1 calls.----Fold instead of chase the inside straight, right?Turn: (7.20 BB) [2s] (2 players)UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, UTG+1 calls.River: (9.20 BB) [5s] (2 players)UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, UTG+1 calls.  Final Pot: 11.20 BBThis looks good tooPokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is UTG+2 with [Qh], [Ad].    2 folds.Flop: (5.40 SB) [Ts], [Qs], [Jd] (2 players)rvrcrdbandit bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.----Should have folded to the raise?Fold or 3-bet. If he caps, you can pretty confidently fold.Turn: (4.70 BB) [3c] (2 players)rvrcrdbandit checks, MP3 bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.River: (6.70 BB) [Tc] (2 players)rvrcrdbandit checks, MP3 bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.Final Pot: 8.70 BBPokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is Button with [Qc], [Kh].    1 fold, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.Flop: (10 SB) [Ks], [9d], [9s] (5 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, rvrcrdbandit bets, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds.Turn: (6.50 BB) [Ad] (3 players)SB checks, UTG+1 checks, rvrcrdbandit bets, UTG+1 folds, rvrcrdbandit calls.----Fold here instead of calling?River: (10.50 BB) [Jc] (2 players)SB bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.Final Pot: 12.50 BBThis looks finePokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is BB with [Qs], [Ah].    1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.Flop: (10.40 SB) [5d], [4h], [As] (5 players)rvrcrdbandit bets, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls.Turn: (6.70 BB) [4d] (3 players)rvrcrdbandit bets, CO folds, rvrcrdbandit calls.----Fold to the raise?IF you're going to fold, this is the place to do it. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see he had the third 4River: (10.70 BB) [Jh] (2 players)rvrcrdbandit checks, MP2 bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.----Check/Call here was correct since he woke up on the turn?Given that you didn't fold the turn, this is fineFinal Pot: 12.70 BB


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Posted 03 May 2005 - 03:22 PM

I've been traveling the last 2 1/2 weeks and will be for the next 3 weeks at least. :D I haven't played since these hands were played, which is probably a good thing considering my confidence was dealt a huge blow. Only got the one response (thanks Emptyeye!) on these hands, but thought I'd post the results anyway. PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is Button with [Qd], [Td]. UTG calls, 4 folds, UTG calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.----Hit the wrong button.Flop: (11 SB) [4d], [2d], [Kc] (5 players)SB checks, UTG checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, rvrcrdbandit bets, SB calls, UTG calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.----Bet at the flush draw.Turn: (8 BB) [Kh] (5 players)SB checks, UTG checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, rvrcrdbandit checks.----Got scaredRiver: (8 BB) [9c] (5 players)SB checks, UTG bets, MP3 calls, CO folds, rvrcrdbandit folds, SB folds.Final Pot: 10 BBResults in white below: UTG has 7s 7d (two pair, kings and sevens). MP3 has 2c Qc (two pair, kings and twos). Outcome: UTG wins 10 BB. PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is BB with [Th], [Kh]. 1 fold, rvrcrdbandit calls, UTG+1 calls.----Worth calling 1 bet from button, no?Flop: (6.40 SB) [Qs], [4d], [9s] (3 players)rvrcrdbandit checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG+1 calls.----Fold instead of chase the inside straight, right?Turn: (7.20 BB) [2s] (2 players)UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, UTG+1 calls.River: (9.20 BB) [5s] (2 players)UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, UTG+1 calls.Final Pot: 11.20 BBResults in white below: UTG+1 has Qc Ah (one pair, queens). MP1 has 8h Ac (high card, ace). Outcome: UTG+1 wins 11.20 BB. PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is UTG+2 with [Qh], [Ad]. 2 folds.Flop: (5.40 SB) [Ts], [Qs], [Jd] (2 players)rvrcrdbandit bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.----Should have on the raise?Turn: (4.70 BB) [3c] (2 players)rvrcrdbandit checks, MP3 bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.River: (6.70 BB) [Tc] (2 players)rvrcrdbandit checks, MP3 bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.Final Pot: 8.70 BBResults in white below: rvrcrdbandit has Qh Ad (two pair, queens and tens). MP3 has Js Jc (full house, jacks full of tens). Outcome: MP3 wins 8.70 BB. PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is Button with [Qc], [Kh]. 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.Flop: (10 SB) [Ks], [9d], [9s] (5 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, rvrcrdbandit bets, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds.Turn: (6.50 BB) [Ad] (3 players)SB checks, UTG+1 checks, rvrcrdbandit bets, UTG+1 folds, rvrcrdbandit calls.----Fold here instead of calling?River: (10.50 BB) [Jc] (2 players)SB bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.Final Pot: 12.50 BBResults in white below: SB has As Kc (two pair, aces and kings). rvrcrdbandit has Qc Kh (two pair, kings and nines). Outcome: SB wins 12.50 BB. PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is BB with [Qs], [Ah]. 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.Flop: (10.40 SB) [5d], [4h], [As] (5 players)rvrcrdbandit bets, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls.Turn: (6.70 BB) [4d] (3 players)rvrcrdbandit bets, CO folds, rvrcrdbandit calls.River: (10.70 BB) [Jh] (2 players)rvrcrdbandit checks, MP2 bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.----Check/Call here was correct since he woke up on the turn?Final Pot: 12.70 BBResults in white below: rvrcrdbandit has Qs Ah (two pair, aces and fours). MP2 has 4s 8s (three of a kind, fours). Outcome: MP2 wins 12.70 BB.

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 03:49 PM

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PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is Button with [Qd], [Td].    UTG calls, 4 folds, UTG calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.----Hit the wrong button.Flop: (11 SB) [4d], [2d], [Kc] (5 players)SB checks, UTG checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, rvrcrdbandit bets, SB calls, UTG calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.----Bet at the flush draw.Turn: (8 BB) [Kh] (5 players)SB checks, UTG checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, rvrcrdbandit checks.----Got scaredRiver: (8 BB) [9c] (5 players)SB checks, UTG bets, MP3 calls, CO folds, rvrcrdbandit folds, SB folds.Final Pot: 10 BB
Too bad you hit the wrong button. The raise there pre-flop is correct. And please, no one REALLY buys the old "wrong button" story.Your bet on the flop is fine, especially given your correct raise PF.bet the turn.

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PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is BB with [Th], [Kh].    1 fold, rvrcrdbandit calls, UTG+1 calls.----Worth calling 1 bet from button, no?Flop: (6.40 SB) [Qs], [4d], [9s] (3 players)rvrcrdbandit checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG+1 calls.----Fold instead of chase the inside straight, right?Turn: (7.20 BB) [2s] (2 players)UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, UTG+1 calls.River: (9.20 BB) [5s] (2 players)UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, UTG+1 calls.Final Pot: 11.20 BB
You weren't the button PF. You were the BB, and yes you should call.Easy fold on the flop. Why are we posting this?

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PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is UTG+2 with [Qh], [Ad].    2 folds.Flop: (5.40 SB) [Ts], [Qs], [Jd] (2 players)rvrcrdbandit bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.----Should have folded to the raise?Turn: (4.70 BB) [3c] (2 players)rvrcrdbandit checks, MP3 bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.River: (6.70 BB) [Tc] (2 players)rvrcrdbandit checks, MP3 bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.Final Pot: 8.70 BB
No, you should not have folded the flop, you should have 3-bet it. If he caps then check call him down. If he just calls the 3-bet lead the turn. It's easy!

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PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is Button with [Qc], [Kh].    1 fold, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.Flop: (10 SB) [Ks], [9d], [9s] (5 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, rvrcrdbandit bets, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds.Turn: (6.50 BB) [Ad] (3 players)SB checks, UTG+1 checks, rvrcrdbandit bets, UTG+1 folds, rvrcrdbandit calls.----Fold here instead of calling?River: (10.50 BB) [Jc] (2 players)SB bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.Final Pot: 12.50 BB
You are getting 8.5:1 on your turn call. You are needing a K or Q to improve, giving you 5 outs or 9.2:1 to improve. It's very close. I would call a LAG, and fold to a TAG.

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PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is BB with [Qs], [Ah].    1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.Flop: (10.40 SB) [5d], [4h], [As] (5 players)rvrcrdbandit bets, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls.Turn: (6.70 BB) [4d] (3 players)rvrcrdbandit bets, CO folds, rvrcrdbandit calls.----Fold to the raise?River: (10.70 BB) [Jh] (2 players)rvrcrdbandit checks, MP2 bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.----Check/Call here was correct since he woke up on the turn?Final Pot: 12.70 BB
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Posted 03 May 2005 - 04:04 PM

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Too bad you hit the wrong button. The raise there pre-flop is correct. And please, no one REALLY buys the old "wrong button" story.Your bet on the flop is fine, especially given your correct raise PF.  
It really was a "wrong button". You'd really raise PF?

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 04:11 PM

Raising QTs preflop in this case is absolutely correct. You have either a postive EV or a neutral EV...either way the implied odds make it correct.Checking the turn was correct, too. Your hand has no showdown value without the flush.3-bet the AQ hand when you get TPTK on the flop.Everything else looked good.EDIT: WHY ISNT MY AVATAR SHOOTING!!!!?????
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Posted 03 May 2005 - 04:29 PM

Your avatar looks okay to me
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Posted 03 May 2005 - 07:28 PM

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I took a gigantic step backwards last night. If I wasn't folding preflop, I was chasing, if I wasn't chasing, I was just being plain stupid. I know I need to play more hands but during this session I saw the flop about 16% of the time. I pretty much go off of the pre-flop chart and I just didn't get the cards and when I did, I just didn't play well or ran into better cards. Anyway, I went from $178 down to $147 and decided I should drop down a limit until I get some confidence back.I really appreciate the hand analysis I get from you all, a lot. Thanks in advance!PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is Button with [Qd], [Td]. UTG calls, 4 folds, UTG calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.----Hit the wrong button.lol, too bad you did the right thingFlop: (11 SB) [4d], [2d], [Kc] (5 players)SB checks, UTG checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, rvrcrdbandit bets, SB calls, UTG calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.----Bet at the flush draw.Turn: (8 BB) [Kh] (5 players)SB checks, UTG checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, rvrcrdbandit checks.----Got scaredRiver: (8 BB) [9c] (5 players)SB checks, UTG bets, MP3 calls, CO folds, rvrcrdbandit folds, SB folds.Final Pot: 10 BBlooks fine to mePokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is BB with [Th], [Kh]. 1 fold, rvrcrdbandit calls, UTG+1 calls.----Worth calling 1 bet from button, no?Flop: (6.40 SB) [Qs], [4d], [9s] (3 players)rvrcrdbandit checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG+1 calls.----Fold instead of chase the inside straight, right?why are you asking this questionPokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is UTG+2 with [Qh], [Ad]. 2 folds.Flop: (5.40 SB) [Ts], [Qs], [Jd] (2 players)rvrcrdbandit bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.----Should have folded to the raise?umm, no. I'd reraiseTurn: (4.70 BB) [3c] (2 players)rvrcrdbandit checks, MP3 bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.River: (6.70 BB) [Tc] (2 players)rvrcrdbandit checks, MP3 bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.Final Pot: 8.70 BBPokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is BB with [Qs], [Ah]. 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.Flop: (10.40 SB) [5d], [4h], [As] (5 players)rvrcrdbandit bets, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls.Turn: (6.70 BB) [4d] (3 players)rvrcrdbandit bets, CO folds, rvrcrdbandit calls.----Fold to the raise?noRiver: (10.70 BB) [Jh] (2 players)rvrcrdbandit checks, MP2 bets, rvrcrdbandit calls.----Check/Call here was correct since he woke up on the turn?Final Pot: 12.70 BB

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