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[Scott3705]

50k guarantee on Full tilt150/400 leftblinds 120/240Your stack: 4300 (average)You have 66 in BB.Folded to button (4000 in chips). Button raises to 700. has been raising from different positions and taking blinds. Folded to a reraise from you once. You decide he's on a steal and you can make him give up his hand.Reraise to 1400.button immediately goes all in. Do you call?

[GT123]

you are either against a bigger pair, where you are way behind. Or against 2 higher cards, a coin flip. I would fold. You still have 12 x the big blind, you can still fight back later on.So wait for a better opportunity.

[RISEorFall]

yeah, even if he's trying a re-steal, you're pretty much a coin flip at best to anything he could have. Even if it's as marginal as J-10. And if he's got a bigger pair you're way behind. The only thing you could hope for him to have would be a smaller pocket pair which is unlikely. I'd fold.

[Swift_Psycho]

If you decide he's on a steal and want to push him out, you have to raise more than just doubling the bet. He can call with such a huge assortment of hands there and when he does, you have no idea where you stand and you are out of position with a small pair for the rest of the hand.Anyway, for this hand, I probably fold at this point. Your situation looks bleak.

[DCWildcat]

Fold. Most likely scenario- 2 overcards and you're a coinflip2nd most likely- top pair and you're beatenleast likely- smaller pair, you've got a huge advantageI'd say at least 70% of the time you're up against a coinflip or a 4-1. Folding seems to be the correct option.

[Vade]

Scott3705 said:

50k guarantee on Full tilt150/400 leftblinds 120/240Your stack: 4300 (average)You have 66 in BB.Folded to button (4000 in chips).  Button raises to 700. has been raising from different positions and taking blinds.  Folded to a reraise from you once.  You decide he's on a steal and you can make him give up his hand.Reraise to 1400.button immediately goes all in.   Do you call?

Hell noOk, I like the idea of trying to wrestle the hand...but for the minimum?That will signify either extreme strength or extreme weakness to your opponent.Even the loosest raisers get hands every once in a while-most of them are very dangerous when they catch a hand

[wrto4556]

im the only one that likes calling and autobeting any flop, huh?

[Swift_Psycho]

wrto4556 said:

im the only one that likes calling and autobeting any flop, huh?

Interesting idea. I definitely like that idea much better than the tiny re-raise, though my answer was really just saying that in that given situation, I fold.

[allinbluff35]

push or fold to his raise

[GT123]

Swift_Psycho said:

If you decide he's on a steal and want to push him out, you have to raise more than just doubling the bet.  He can call with such a huge assortment of hands there and when he does, you have no idea where you stand and you are out of position with a small pair for the rest of the hand.Anyway, for this hand, I probably fold at this point.  Your situation looks bleak.

I don't think his small re-raise was that bad, he said that the guy folded to his re-raise before. If the guy folded to a small re-raise before, then doing it again is correct. Theres no point raising so much that you become pot commited and have to call.But if the previous re-raise that caused the blind stealer to fold was much larger, then I agree that a small re-raise is bad.

[Scott3705]

I was just curious what you guys thought about this. I saw some one post from their opponents' point of view in another thread and thought it was a good idea. Because basically, I was trying to get an idea of what could have been going through his head to call. Basically, I was the button, I had AK and was trying to put a move on the BB. I put him on a middle pair because he had shown that he was willing to raise these types of hands a few times before. PLus, I had folded to a reraise by him with AQ 2 hands prior to this hand, so I felt that he would have given me credit for a bigger pair. I really felt like he was going to fold and I wasn't trying to get all my chips in with a coin toss (althought that's what happened). I had played very solid at the table and was suprised that he called with 66. I really felt about 80-90% sure he was going to fold here. After the board didn't help me out and I was eliminated, I followed his progress through the tournament. Turned out my read on how solid he was was completely off. I think I gave him too much credit for his "fearless" aggression. He proceeded to get the chip lead within a half an hour... about 40,000 in chips and lost it all within another 10 minutes. Was this move too reckless? The tournament wasn't at the bubble yet, but the blinds were getting pretty big for the stacks. Seemed like it was moving time and I felt like this pot could have put me in healthy shape to accumulate chips and be able to absord a bad beat if I had to.