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[mkeller3086]

So I am break even through about my first 15,000 hands of 25nl 6max on Full Tilt

I think I am better than that so I just wanted to do a quick check up on my play preflop where I think might be my biggest leak. After that I would say probably paying off on the river too often.

I play pretty loose and aggressive preflop since I find these games to be pretty weak/tight/passive. I take down a lot of pots preflop but I'm not sure if I am giving myself an edge because I would say that my opponents are entering the pot with a better hand on average when they do and I do get 3 bet more often than other players. I would like to compare my preflop play with those who have had success at small stakes 6 max games.

These are all hands that I raise, I rarely open call. This is fairly accurate but still a bit of a rough guess.

UTG: 66+, A10+, A9s+, KJ+, any two suited cards 10 or higher
MP: same, I might add a few smaller pairs but probably still limp with those below 66, maybe add QJo, maybe a few more suited aces and A9o
Hijack: same as above, I add hands like 98s, 109s, A7/8s
CO: same as above plus 108s, 97s, , K9s, Q9s, J9s, 87s, probably add any offsuit cards ten or higher, A5/6s, A7o
Button: same as above plus 44, 55, 67s, 68s, 57s, 56s, A2s+, A5o+

Just some general things I do:
an open raise is 4x
a raise after limpers is 4x plus one BB for every limper
after limpers I tend to limp with pairs under 88, with low suited connectors, fold offsuit aces below A9, and usually raise everything else


hope to get some good discussion and that this description isn't too confusing

[jmbreslin]

What are the blinds at 25NL?

If the tables play weak-tight, maybe you need to focus less on taking down tiny pots PF and more on building the pot and taking it away postflop?

[trystero]

How you play should depend on your table. It's great to be in position, no doubt, but some of those hands aren't strong enough to match up against calling stations. Over my first 6k hands at 6-max $10-$25 nl I used to play way more LAG in position. I would raise limpers with a variety of holdings, all sorts of junk, and I found that I was winning just slightly. This troubled me because I had spent over 67% of my life posting and lurking on these forums, and I was only marginally better than the worst players on the Internet. So I tightened up from LP and found this strategy to be far more successful. If you're at one of the typical Full Tilt Rock Gardens then by all means raise it up from the CO with 79s. But if your table's loaded with calling stations and aggrodonks then I'd suggest tightening up.

I do play tighter from EP than you do - I raise AJ+, KQ+, and 22+ UTG. Sometimes I'll throw in a random suited nectar kinda hand. But to be honest I'd much rather have K8o OTB than KJs from UTG. The more I play NL the more I learn that it's a game of position, and that folds often perceived as "weak" from EP are anything but.

IMO you should raise with all pocket pairs from any position. Of course some table dynamics suggest a fold from EP with the weaker ones.

Also remember that you could just be running poorly. One of the advantages of playing LAG is that you can exploit your opponent's postflop mistakes, often by flopping weird hands against top pair or overpairs. But these situations are rare and may require more than 10k hands to construct a meaningful sample.

But how do you play from the blinds?

[mtdesmoines]

So I am break even through about my first 15,000 hands of 25nl 6max on Full Tilt

I think I am better than that so I just wanted to do a quick check up on my play preflop where I think might be my biggest leak. After that I would say probably paying off on the river too often.

I play pretty loose and aggressive preflop since I find these games to be pretty weak/tight/passive. I take down a lot of pots preflop but I'm not sure if I am giving myself an edge because I would say that my opponents are entering the pot with a better hand on average when they do and I do get 3 bet more often than other players. I would like to compare my preflop play with those who have had success at small stakes 6 max games.

These are all hands that I raise, I rarely open call. This is fairly accurate but still a bit of a rough guess.

UTG: 66+, A10+, A9s+, KJ+, any two suited cards 10 or higher
MP: same, I might add a few smaller pairs but probably still limp with those below 66, maybe add QJo, maybe a few more suited aces and A9o
Hijack: same as above, I add hands like 98s, 109s, A7/8s
CO: same as above plus 108s, 97s, , K9s, Q9s, J9s, 87s, probably add any offsuit cards ten or higher, A5/6s, A7o
Button: same as above plus 44, 55, 67s, 68s, 57s, 56s, A2s+, A5o+

Just some general things I do:
an open raise is 4x
a raise after limpers is 4x plus one BB for every limper
after limpers I tend to limp with pairs under 88, with low suited connectors, fold offsuit aces below A9, and usually raise everything else
hope to get some good discussion and that this description isn't too confusing

My opinions ... your CO/button raising range should "flex" more with table texture and player reads. I think some of these hands should just be limped and position used more post-flop.

And stop trying to catch me bluffing the river. It infuriates me, but it's a long-term loser for you. LOL

Also, when you hit these hands post-flop, don't wait for the villain to fill the pot. Bet the hands you make.

[mkeller3086]

I play pretty tight out of the blinds, I try my best to avoid hands that are easily dominated and play poorly post flop out of position. As an example I would rather call a raise out of the blinds with 89s rather than KJo.

When its limped to me I complete or check most of my hands usually only raising with pairs 99+ AK, AQs maybe AQo and maybe KQs I check most everything else without a specific read.

Anything specific that you would like to know that I haven't said?