Scott3705 0 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 100NL - 6 handedEffective stacks: $47.5 Villian in SB. Been here for 1 orbit. Hasn't played a hand yet. (He gave me a walk on my BB last time.)UTG limps, SB completes, hero checks with Jc 6c.FLOP: 3Ah Jh 7sI lead for 2, UTG folds, SB callsTURN: $7Ah Jh 7s 6dHero bets $6.5, Villian raises to $16.5 Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Can't see anything but a shovel against an unknown Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 SB could have A7/A6, but 67 is also a possibility. He could also be just overrating a naked ace. Given that you have position I like calling the raise and seeing what he does on the river. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 100NL - 6 handedEffective stacks: $47.5 Villian in SB. Been here for 1 orbit. Hasn't played a hand yet. (He gave me a walk on my BB last time.)UTG limps, SB completes, hero checks with Jc 6c.FLOP: 3Ah Jh 7sI lead for 2, UTG folds, SB callsTURN: $7Ah Jh 7s 6dHero bets $6.5, Villian raises to $16.5... I dunno, man. villains who fold SBs aren't necessarily doing a lot of floating and bullying. Looks like he's trying to commit you to a river push. You could be WB. I get the creeps about this hand and it pretty much is closely related to bottom two, which I'm not a fan of when there's a A on the board and a raise from a rock ... Just sayin ... Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 ... I dunno, man. villains who fold SBs aren't necessarily doing a lot of floating and bullying. Looks like he's trying to commit you to a river push. You could be WB. I get the creeps about this hand and it pretty much is closely related to bottom two, which I'm not a fan of when there's a A on the board and a raise from a rock ... Just sayin ...do you seriously consider this guy a rock because he folded 1 SB, this villian is an unknownBTW Scott I absolutely love the flop lead Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted August 13, 2007 Author Share Posted August 13, 2007 do you seriously consider this guy a rock because he folded 1 SB, this villian is an unknownI don't know... this hand gave me the creeps here as well. If I'm playing for stacks I'm banking on 2 options:1. He's an idiot and is going crazy with A little and is basically running the old "bluffing with the best hand." gag on me.2. He floated bottom pair with 67.Option 1 is more likely i guess. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 do you seriously consider this guy a rock because he folded 1 SB, this villian is an unknownYeah. Absolutely. Until he shows me different. When I see it limped to the SB and he folds, I know I'm 99% likely dealing with a nit. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 I think that Simo is right. If you shove, you're only getting called by better hands unless it's 67. I think that a call is fine and you can call most rivers as well. You have position and I'd use it. He's not playing it like a draw so I wouldn't worry about the draw too much.If you're gonna be willing to go broke with what is often the 2nd best hand, see if you can get to showdown without stacking off. His line looks pretty strong and anything that he's repping is stronger than what you got. Link to post Share on other sites
Canary3 1 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 I dont really like the situation... i say call and see what he does on the river. its unlikely that he pulls the trigger on the river with just an ace. Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted August 13, 2007 Author Share Posted August 13, 2007 I think that Simo is right. If you shove, you're only getting called by better hands unless it's 67. I think that a call is fine and you can call most rivers as well. You have position and I'd use it. He's not playing it like a draw so I wouldn't worry about the draw too much.If you're gonna be willing to go broke with what is often the 2nd best hand, see if you can get to showdown without stacking off. His line looks pretty strong and anything that he's repping is stronger than what you got.Interesting that you'd be inclined to call most rivers. That seems to be the minority at this point. Seems more like a call behind and fold a decent river bet. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Interesting that you'd be inclined to call most rivers. That seems to be the minority at this point. Seems more like a call behind and fold a decent river bet.I guess I've just seen people do dumber things and turn hands into bluffs that dont' need to be bluffs. I made my point to counter the people saying that you should shove back there. I think if you're willing to get AI, then calling the turn and calling AI on the river is better by far. Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted August 13, 2007 Author Share Posted August 13, 2007 I guess I've just seen people do dumber things and turn hands into bluffs that dont' need to be bluffs. I made my point to counter the people saying that you should shove back there. I think if you're willing to get AI, then calling the turn and calling AI on the river is better by far.Got ya. Yeah, didn't cross my mind to shove ever. I was more along the lines of calling the turn to fold the river or just flat folding the turn. Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted August 14, 2007 Author Share Posted August 14, 2007 Results:I called and the river went check check. I thought, "Great, I won the pot." Villian showed A6 and said he missed a C/R. Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Results:I called and the river went check check. I thought, "Great, I won the pot." Villian showed A6 and said he missed a C/R.Gotta love the double C/R. Link to post Share on other sites
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