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0.10/0.20 K10s Open End Straight And Second Nut Flush Draw.


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#1 Roo6339

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Posted 12 August 2007 - 03:27 AM

PokerStars 0.10/0.20 Hold'em (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, T.
UTG calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 5, J, Q (3 players)
SB bets, UTG folds, Hero raises, SB calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

River: (7.50 BB) 3 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB

I kinda went with a free-card play, but ended up betting the turn. With a big draw like this, is it better to try and get as much money as possible in like I did, or should I have taken the free-card I set myself up for?

EDIT: No reads. This is my 3rd hand at the table.

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Posted 12 August 2007 - 07:48 AM

i like it...you might take the pot right here, and you keep the lead in the hand to possibly set yourself up for a bluff on the river when checked to...once you miss and he bets there is nothing you can do
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Posted 12 August 2007 - 08:00 AM

Id play it the same. We have some fold equity on the turn and a huge draw so that even if he calls its not the end of the world.

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Posted 12 August 2007 - 09:42 AM

Very standard.

Well played.

Here's a question though; if he checks the river to you, do you bluff it again? Or check and hope K high is good?
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Posted 12 August 2007 - 12:36 PM

he lead flop into a pf raiser

You all think he fold the turn enough to fade a c/r

Im' in the camp that you should take more free cards when you have more outs and less fold equity, generally

I dont hate a bet, just dont want to make love to it either.

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Posted 12 August 2007 - 12:39 PM

Depends on reads, obv.

Lots of players will donk/call, check/fold.

Usually a weak pair, weak draw, etc. The donk is typically not a strong hand from most players.
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#7 Roo6339

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Posted 12 August 2007 - 06:40 PM

QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Monday, August 13th, 2007, 3:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Very standard.

Well played.

Here's a question though; if he checks the river to you, do you bluff it again? Or check and hope K high is good?


I'd check and pray. I've found out the hard way that bluffing on the river is a terrible idea at micro stake tables.

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Posted 12 August 2007 - 08:07 PM

I've got a fun little exercise for you guys.

Assume we have 18 outs (Call it 9 clubs, 6 more straight outs, and 3 Kings, even though that's obviously the top end). Assume we never get check/raised. Disregard implied odds and river action. The hand ends on the turn.


How often does our bluff have to succeed to be completely breakeven?

Show all your math. (I'm going to make this into a new thread, I think)


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