Roo6339 0 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 PokerStars 0.10/0.20 Hold'em (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, T. UTG calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG calls.Flop: (7 SB) 5, J, Q(3 players)SB bets, UTG folds, Hero raises, SB calls.Turn: (5.50 BB) 4(2 players)SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.River: (7.50 BB) 3(2 players)SB bets, Hero folds.Final Pot: 7.50 BBI kinda went with a free-card play, but ended up betting the turn. With a big draw like this, is it better to try and get as much money as possible in like I did, or should I have taken the free-card I set myself up for?EDIT: No reads. This is my 3rd hand at the table. Link to post Share on other sites
sabes99 0 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 i like it...you might take the pot right here, and you keep the lead in the hand to possibly set yourself up for a bluff on the river when checked to...once you miss and he bets there is nothing you can do Link to post Share on other sites
Moneyball16 0 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 Id play it the same. We have some fold equity on the turn and a huge draw so that even if he calls its not the end of the world. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 Very standard.Well played.Here's a question though; if he checks the river to you, do you bluff it again? Or check and hope K high is good? Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 he lead flop into a pf raiserYou all think he fold the turn enough to fade a c/rIm' in the camp that you should take more free cards when you have more outs and less fold equity, generallyI dont hate a bet, just dont want to make love to it either. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 Depends on reads, obv.Lots of players will donk/call, check/fold.Usually a weak pair, weak draw, etc. The donk is typically not a strong hand from most players. Link to post Share on other sites
Roo6339 0 Posted August 13, 2007 Author Share Posted August 13, 2007 Very standard.Well played.Here's a question though; if he checks the river to you, do you bluff it again? Or check and hope K high is good?I'd check and pray. I've found out the hard way that bluffing on the river is a terrible idea at micro stake tables. Link to post Share on other sites
Shimmering Wang 1 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 I've got a fun little exercise for you guys. Assume we have 18 outs (Call it 9 clubs, 6 more straight outs, and 3 Kings, even though that's obviously the top end). Assume we never get check/raised. Disregard implied odds and river action. The hand ends on the turn. How often does our bluff have to succeed to be completely breakeven?Show all your math. (I'm going to make this into a new thread, I think)Wang Link to post Share on other sites
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