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#41 StupidKid

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 03:59 PM

Blah. This means people on their own $ will have to send more, its the same %age wise but in money terms we'd act be givin double what you guys were giving?Or is it 1%of your overall cash or 1% of what you guys who are staked keep ...I think if people are swapping then the same amount should be swapped if you are staked or if not.As obey said, terms need to be set out properly if I'm gonna do this.

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 05:19 PM

View PostObeyTheDog, on Friday, August 10th, 2007, 4:57 PM, said:

To be fair with non-staked players, it should be 1% of your total winnings minus buy-in. And the 50% of the stake should also not be touched.So simple example, if you won $1,011. You'd ship the $11 stake back to me if you were staked. If you weren't, you'd subtract $11 as your buy-in. So either way, that leaves, $1,000.You'd then own $10 as your 1%.Yet, you'd still owe the complete 50% of $1,000 for your stake, which is $500.This would leave $490 for yourself. No fuzzy math, very straightforward, apples to apples for nonstaked and staked players alike.
Exactly. Of course, using this example, it's 1% ($10) times how many ever end up agreeing to this. So if you have 6 players in not counting yourself, it's $10x6 = $60, leaving $440 for yourself if you were staked (as I am). Cool? Cool.

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 05:24 PM

View PostStupidKid, on Friday, August 10th, 2007, 4:59 PM, said:

Blah. This means people on their own $ will have to send more, its the same %age wise but in money terms we'd act be givin double what you guys were giving?Or is it 1%of your overall cash or 1% of what you guys who are staked keep ...I think if people are swapping then the same amount should be swapped if you are staked or if not.As obey said, terms need to be set out properly if I'm gonna do this.
No, based on Obey's example, someone winning $1011 will ship $10 apiece to each participating member whether you're staked or not. You remove the buy-in either way, then it's just like doing the 1% calculation first. Divvy up 1% of the winnings to each, THEN if you are staked, pay back 50% (of the original winnings) to your backer.Thus, by me accepting a stake AND participating in this 1% team deal, I am effectively giving up ~56% of myself, in return for the stake and the chance to win something extra when my teammates pwn. For non-stakees, you're giving up ~6% for the latter benefit only. The 1% payouts, from those staked or not, will be the same assuming the cashes are equal.

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 06:21 PM

Ok let me clarify this because i think that everyone is getting a little confused. Staked Player : Pays Back the 11$stake and 50% of their winnings. They then give 1% to all participating playersNon Staked Players: Would take out their origional 11$ and then give .5% of their earnings to each participating player(or 1% of half the prize).The only way that the non staked players would have to give 1% of the total prize would be if Obey was going to take part. If he was going to take part in the profit sharin then in turn he would be giving out 1% of half the total prize as well so if a stakee was to win it would work out to be the same amount as 1% of the total prize because both obey and the stakee would be giving out 1% of half. So basically if obey is taking part then the non staked players would need to take out the origional 11$ entry and give 1% of whatevers left. If obey is in and a staked player was to win the staked player would give obey half plus the origional 11$ stake and both would give 1% of their share.

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 09:50 PM

Geez, i'm half drunk and trying to make sense of this. See if this sounds right and i'll check back with this in the morning/afternoon cuz I'll be gone all afternoon/evening tomorrow so we need to get this nailed down by roughly 2 pm Central time saturday.No matter if you're staked or on your own, if you final table it you deduct $11 from your winnings and give 1% of what's left to everyone who's in on this. THEN, if you are staked you give that $11 deducted + 50% to Obey. If you're on your own dime, you keep everything else after the win - $11 - 1% to everyone. Wow, am I really that drunk or did that just make sense to me????
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Posted 10 August 2007 - 10:05 PM

Ok im cool with that.... everyone ships 1% of the total amount after removing the 11$ to each of the players, if you where staked you still ship 1% of the total amount, but take it out of your half of the 50% and still give obey his 50% of the entire amount asuming he doesnt want in on the deal.Basically sums up as yes if you arent staked you will still be giving/ getting 1% of the total amount won just people staked will remove 50% for obey first and then pay it out.Is that right?works for me.Wow are we slow or is this taking entirely too much effort to figure out. LOL

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 10:53 PM

How about this, anyone want to swap 1% with me for only a top 5 finish.For me it'd be meaningless to be receiving 10 bucks for in a swap for like 9th place. 1% of 5th place pays ~30$.

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Posted 11 August 2007 - 12:06 AM

View Postalbasuna, on Friday, August 10th, 2007, 10:53 PM, said:

How about this, anyone want to swap 1% with me for only a top 5 finish.For me it'd be meaningless to be receiving 10 bucks for in a swap for like 9th place. 1% of 5th place pays ~30$.
sigh...I have a feeling this isn't going to get done. My last offer I'll be a part of (just because I'll be gone from 2 pm tomorrow until an hour or so before the tourney) is a 1% share of any final table. You would first deduct $11 from the total winnings (either for yourself if not staked or for Obey as stakeback if staked) THEN give 1% of what's left to every person who's a part of the trade THEN keep the rest if on your own dime/split the rest 50/50 with Obey if you're on a stake. I'll check this tomorrow before I leave town to see if we've got some agreement. Bleh, I'm tired now.
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Posted 11 August 2007 - 02:01 AM

Percentage stuff confuses me. Don't bother trying to explain. If I get top 3, I'll throw $100 to everyone on the team. That's simple enough for me to understand. No one else has to do it like that.

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Posted 11 August 2007 - 07:56 AM

I'm willing to swap a %age based on the way in which ObeyTheDog said in his post.Quote this if you're in. Easiest way.I will add names to this post.In: StupidKidFreak2304Ben GPotsie PMkaplan10820TN40LunarphaseEcclesburyRjohnny4321Also: If no-one final tables this after all this effort then this is extremely bad form, so someone win please! (Preferably me ty)

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Posted 11 August 2007 - 08:58 AM

View PostStupidKid, on Saturday, August 11th, 2007, 7:56 AM, said:

I'm willing to swap a %age based on the way in which ObeyTheDog said in his post.Quote this if you're in. Easiest way.I will add names to this post.In: StupidKidAlso: If no-one final tables this after all this effort then this is extremely bad form, so someone win please! (Preferably me ty)
Alright, I'm down with the Obey-posted way. Put me as in. I'm off to my new wife's friend of the family b-day party in Smalltown, USA. :club: See you all tomorrow around start time!
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Posted 11 August 2007 - 10:10 AM

View PostStupidKid, on Saturday, August 11th, 2007, 7:56 AM, said:

I'm willing to swap a %age based on the way in which ObeyTheDog said in his post.Quote this if you're in. Easiest way.I will add names to this post.In: StupidKidFreak2304Also: If no-one final tables this after all this effort then this is extremely bad form, so someone win please! (Preferably me ty)
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Posted 11 August 2007 - 12:47 PM

View PostStupidKid, on Saturday, August 11th, 2007, 8:56 AM, said:

I'm willing to swap a %age based on the way in which ObeyTheDog said in his post.Quote this if you're in. Easiest way.I will add names to this post.In: StupidKidFreak2304Also: If no-one final tables this after all this effort then this is extremely bad form, so someone win please! (Preferably me ty)
To make it simple, I will be IN for FINAL TABLE cashes only. Meaning if you don't FT, you don't owe me squat. And vice versa if I don't FT. Saves the hassle of shipping $ back and forth, because WE ARE ALL GOING TO CASH, OBV!

QUOTE(DanielNegreanu @ Thursday, May 1st, 2008, 6:05 PM)
You obviously don't get it.
QUOTE(Potsie P @ Friday, May 2nd, 2008, 3:37 PM)
God. Dammit.

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Posted 11 August 2007 - 01:26 PM

View PostPotsie P, on Saturday, August 11th, 2007, 12:47 PM, said:

To make it simple, I will be IN for FINAL TABLE cashes only. Meaning if you don't FT, you don't owe me squat. And vice versa if I don't FT. Saves the hassle of shipping $ back and forth, because WE ARE ALL GOING TO CASH, OBV!
Ya thats the idea final table cashes only.

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Posted 11 August 2007 - 02:01 PM

I'm in for the swap.
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Posted 11 August 2007 - 02:19 PM

View PostPotsie P, on Saturday, August 11th, 2007, 9:47 PM, said:

To make it simple, I will be IN for FINAL TABLE cashes only. Meaning if you don't FT, you don't owe me squat. And vice versa if I don't FT. Saves the hassle of shipping $ back and forth, because WE ARE ALL GOING TO CASH, OBV!
I thought it was obv final table cashes only.

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Posted 11 August 2007 - 03:09 PM

View PostStupidKid, on Saturday, August 11th, 2007, 3:19 PM, said:

I thought it was obv final table cashes only.
Yeah, yeah. You forget that yesterday I was just this Dogpound's equipment manager. Today I'm effing subbing for our Team Captain. Excuse me if I'm ALSOTU (A Little Slow On The Uptake).Now if you'll excuse me, I gotta go do a "Eugene Robinson pre-game" for proper relaxation before the Big Game.GO. DAWGS.

QUOTE(DanielNegreanu @ Thursday, May 1st, 2008, 6:05 PM)
You obviously don't get it.
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God. Dammit.

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Posted 11 August 2007 - 07:19 PM

I am going to miss at least the start of the event. I have tried a couple of folks to play over me, but none are available, so I'm just going to have to be blinded off. Obey, if you want to replace me, feel free. I'm still trying to find a temporary replacement though.
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Posted 11 August 2007 - 07:55 PM

View PostStupidKid, on Saturday, August 11th, 2007, 11:56 AM, said:

I'm willing to swap a %age based on the way in which ObeyTheDog said in his post.Quote this if you're in. Easiest way.I will add names to this post.In: StupidKidFreak2304Ben GPotsie PMkaplan108Also: If no-one final tables this after all this effort then this is extremely bad form, so someone win please! (Preferably me ty)
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Posted 11 August 2007 - 08:00 PM

swap is fine for me too




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